Water up to row 10 at Saddledome. Dressing rooms submerged.

[MrCallahan]

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Yesterday King mentioned that he talked to David Poile and they discussed the similar flooding issues that the Predators had in 2010. He mentioned that they were barely able to get everything in place for the start of the season.

That flood happened in early May, and at its highest, the water level inside the arena was only about one foot deep: http://predators.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=528207




If that relatively small amount of water took that long to recover from, it's hard to believe they can get the Saddledome in game shape for September/October.

[Ashasx]

The Flames have more money and resources than the Predators.

[Brannigans Law]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

The Flames have more money and resources than the Predators.

I gaurentee you the bridgestone arena has resources equivalent or greater than the Flames. That arena is in a major music centre (Nashville) and has high profile artists and groups and entertainment year round.

[mikephoen]

Originally Posted by Brannigans Law

I gaurentee you the bridgestone arena has resources equivalent or greater than the Flames. That arena is in a major music centre (Nashville) and has high profile artists and groups and entertainment year round.

Well then I guess we'll just have to outwork them.

[saskflames69]

Metrodome
Saddledome
Superdome

All three are sports facilities that suffered catastrophic damage in the last 10 years. All three have the suffix -dome. Freak coincidence? Probably.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by getbak

Yesterday King mentioned that he talked to David Poile and they discussed the similar flooding issues that the Predators had in 2010. He mentioned that they were barely able to get everything in place for the start of the season.

That flood happened in early May, and at its highest, the water level inside the arena was only about one foot deep: http://predators.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=528207




If that relatively small amount of water took that long to recover from, it's hard to believe they can get the Saddledome in game shape for September/October.

But 1 foot or 20 feet you probably have similar damage. All of your walls and flooring need to be redone anyways. Ice plant and electronics are probably similarly damaged. I see the only real difference is having to replace 5000 seats.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Brannigans Law

I gaurentee you the bridgestone arena has resources equivalent or greater than the Flames. That arena is in a major music centre (Nashville) and has high profile artists and groups and entertainment year round.

I think our engineers can outwork their musicians. But put simply, the profile of the city isn't what matters, it is the capability of ownership to invest the resources. Leipold put enough resources into Nashville's rink to get it repaired on time. I fully expect our owners and the city will as well. It will cost more, but it will get done.

[Brannigans Law]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

I think our engineers can outwork their musicians. But put simply, the profile of the city isn't what matters, it is the capability of ownership to invest the resources. Leipold put enough resources into Nashville's rink to get it repaired on time. I fully expect our owners and the city will as well. It will cost more, but it will get done.

It's not just about the Predators, and I don't mean that the profile of the city comes into play. The arena there hosts a lot of high profile big ticket music events, and often. So resources would have been pumped into getting the arena back up and running ASAP not just for hockey but for lucrative concerts from bigger name artists/bands that would usually play Nashville and not Calgary.

I don't think we'll miss out on the whole season but I think a large road swing to start and games played elsewhere until December/January is a reasonable expectation to set.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by getbak

Yesterday King mentioned that he talked to David Poile and they discussed the similar flooding issues that the Predators had in 2010. He mentioned that they were barely able to get everything in place for the start of the season.

That flood happened in early May, and at its highest, the water level inside the arena was only about one foot deep: http://predators.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=528207


If that relatively small amount of water took that long to recover from, it's hard to believe they can get the Saddledome in game shape for September/October.

What exactly happened in Nashville?

That is some crystal clear water.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Brannigans Law

It's not just about the Predators, and I don't mean that the profile of the city comes into play. The arena there hosts a lot of high profile big ticket music events, and often. So resources would have been pumped into getting the arena back up and running ASAP not just for hockey but for lucrative concerts from bigger name artists/bands that would usually play Nashville and not Calgary.

I don't think we'll miss out on the whole season but I think a large road swing to start and games played elsewhere until December/January is a reasonable expectation to set.

I'll start off by saying I am fairly ignorant to how all of this can/will go down but could the Flames set up temporary dressing rooms etc outside the 'Dome and focus on getting the ice surface/seating fixed first?

Might buy them some time.

[Brannigans Law]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

I'll start off by saying I am fairly ignorant to how all of this can/will go down but could the Flames set up temporary dressing rooms etc outside the 'Dome and focus on getting the ice surface/seating fixed first?

Might buy them some time.

I think if you did this or what SCH suggsted, having a stripped down version of things to get the season underway, you just wind up delaying and making the actual fix much longer. So instead of having no Flames at the Dome until January, but back to 100% you could wind up having a pretty crappy experience at the Dome for either players or fans all season long. I think it's a better idea to just rip the bandaid off and get it all done and out of the way.

I'm not a season ticket holder tho so it won't really be up to me; it will be up to them (in some capacity... tolerance for a lowered game day experience vs Flames being in a diff city for a while, etc).

[MrMastodonFarm]

How many years does the Dome have left anyways. 3-4?

Damn shame.

[djsFlames]

Lol.
1, that water isn't 10-15 feet deep like some places in the dome.
and 2, looks like it was bathed in glacial water, not the toxic black sewage waste that has left everything in several inches of sludge.

But fair enough.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

What exactly happened in Nashville?

That is some crystal clear water.

They got an insane amount of rain, like 3 times more than we did. Dozens died. Here's a pic of Nashville showing the water in the streets to be just as gross as ours is, so I have no idea why the water in the arena is so clear. Nashville's arena is only a little bit further from their river than ours is.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

What exactly happened in Nashville?

That is some crystal clear water.

This says it was water backup from the storm drains rather than leakage from ground level: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5160478

Here's a big map showing the flooded area: http://www.tennessean.com/assets/gif/DN15736059.GIF

The arena was actually about a block away from direct flooding. The stadium was harder hit. The field and everything at field level were under about six feet of water.



Even still, the Titans played their full home schedule, with their first preseason game three months after the flood.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Brannigans Law

It's not just about the Predators, and I don't mean that the profile of the city comes into play. The arena there hosts a lot of high profile big ticket music events, and often. So resources would have been pumped into getting the arena back up and running ASAP not just for hockey but for lucrative concerts from bigger name artists/bands that would usually play Nashville and not Calgary.

I don't think we'll miss out on the whole season but I think a large road swing to start and games played elsewhere until December/January is a reasonable expectation to set.

You have utterly failed to address my point. It does not matter one iota what acts go to the Bridgestone Arena relative to the Saddledome. It does not matter how big their acts are. The one and only thing that matters is the willingness of the team and city to invest the necessary money and resources to repairing the facility in the time they have. And I really don't think that the Flames are going to say "well shoot, we don't get the kind of acts they do in Nashville, so we simply won't dedicate those resources." Do you?

Your argument, as presented, is silly. It would make a lot more sense to argue that the flooding is worse, and the time frame is shorter, therefore Calgary is less likely to be able to repair in time.

[Brannigans Law]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

You have utterly failed to address my point. It does not matter one iota what acts go to the Bridgestone Arena relative to the Saddledome. It does not matter how big their acts are. The one and only thing that matters is the willingness of the team and city to invest the necessary money and resources to repairing the facility in the time they have. And I really don't think that the Flames are going to say "well shoot, we don't get the kind of acts they do in Nashville, so we simply won't dedicate those resources." Do you?

Your argument, as presented, is silly. It would make a lot more sense to argue that the flooding is worse, and the time frame is shorter, therefore Calgary is less likely to be able to repair in time.

I guess I made the assumption that Nashvilles damage wasn't as severe and they had longer to repair it. I'm building on that very argument. What I'm saying is that the Flames likely wont have more resources than Nashville to repair more damage in less time. Period. Anything else that you've presumed me to say is irrelevant. It's not a personal slight to us as Calgarians. You can only throw so much money at a building issue. You can only fit in so many people to do cleanup and have so many workers at any given point rebuilding. What I was saying is I really doubt a major entertainment hub like Nashville didn't go above and beyond do everything they could to repair their arena. As I'm sure we will.