[Rumour] Roger Millions hints Cammalleri asked for trade [MRG]

[Diemenz]

Originally Posted by YYC in LAX

I have no hate for Cammalleri or Tanguay and I know it's not a great managerial sentiment, but I'd be happy if we were able to give these guys away for free and move on.

Originally Posted by YYC in LAX

Not for free no...any pick would do.

Any pick would not do.

Tangs should garner at least a 4th and Cammy at least a 2nd.

However those two combined are good for around 80-90 points a season, who is going to replace those points on the roster? If you think guys like Reinhart & Horak are going to fill that role you might be in for a surprise.

[SuperMatt18]

Tanguay I would give away for free, just to get out from that contract.

Cammy should be able to get a return, especially at the trade deadline.

[GreenLantern]

I don't understand why we are so worried about contracts, this team isn't contending and doesn't have some big super star to re-sign.. keeping a contract doesn't hurt the Flames, just the owners pockets.

Tanguay could ride out his contract here and not once be in the way financially.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

I don't understand why we are so worried about contracts, this team isn't contending and doesn't have some big super star to re-sign.. keeping a contract doesn't hurt the Flames, just the owners pockets.

Tanguay could ride out his contract here and not once be in the way financially.

True, but there are other factors. If I'm Feaster, I don't want a floater who mails it in around our young guys. That's the kind of culture the Flames are trying to get rid of, not encourage.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

I don't understand why we are so worried about contracts, this team isn't contending and doesn't have some big super star to re-sign.. keeping a contract doesn't hurt the Flames, just the owners pockets.

Tanguay could ride out his contract here and not once be in the way financially.

I don't think we are worried about the contracts just wanting to get returns for these guys. We're building our team, it's all about assets. No point in letting some rot away.

[Diemenz]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

I don't think we are worried about the contracts just wanting to get returns for these guys. We're building our team, it's all about assets. No point in letting some rot away.

I think what GreenLantern is trying to say is when it comes to getting a 5th - 7th rounder for a guy who brings in 40 points+ and helps the team stay cap compliant the trade is not in the best interest of the flames.

I think some people are forgetting there is a cap floor and having Tangs, Stemp, Cammy, Sarich and possibly more gone and a player with an ECL taking that place Calgary will be below the cap floor.

Not to mention a team of all ECL players results in several years of cellar (not stellar) hockey. Ask our Neighbors up north.

[Miniac]

Sure sounds like he was unsure about sticking around.

http://video.flames.nhl.com/videocen...ed-share-video

[WilderPegasus]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Murray won't trade his 1st for a top 6 forward:
http://www.ottawasun.com/2013/06/18/...ting-in-boston
I think a more likely scenario might be Cammallerri for Silfverberg + 3rd

Silfverberg is 6'1'' 200lb LW/RW with upside.

edit: Just looked up the stats to see that Sifverberg had a great season...the flames have to add to get him.

If Ottawa is not trading their first rounder for a guy like Cammalleri they sure aren't trading Silfverberg for him either.

[MissTeeks]

Roger Millions‏@RogMillions40s
For the record. #SN talked to Feaster in Boston. He admitted Cammalleri could be moved, with one year left. Certainly thinking about it.

[FAN]

I understand fans wanting to maximize Cammalleri's value, but if Cammalleri wants to be traded Feaster should trade him before the season starts. The last thing we want is for Cammalleri to come in pouting and thinking the GM is a fool, the coach is annoying, and the team plays like losers.

I don't blame Cammalleri though. He's 31, in his last year of his contract, and he came here thinking he would be playing with Iginla and competing for the playoffs. Feaster can talk all he wants but if he's not offering Cammalleri an extension, Cammalleri isn't stupid enough to think he's part of the solution.

As for the return, I'm thinking that the most likely return will come in the form of a younger version of a Stempniak/Bourque type player. A streaky scorer making solid money with 2-3 years of team control left. Cammalleri is a productive player, but $6M cap hit is a lot to add to a team in today's environment and teams looking to make the cap floor probably aren't liking the $7M in salary owed.

[cowtown75]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Bit convoluted and Roger never actually flat out says it but he's hinting at it here.

Something to look at around draft weekend?

Roger was too cheap to buy a PVR off of me when I was selling home theater- I take what he says with a grain of salt. That being said, I think Cammy would be a good fit in Ottawa, for a first and a prospect.

[cowtown75]

Originally Posted by FAN

I understand fans wanting to maximize Cammalleri's value, but if Cammalleri wants to be traded Feaster should trade him before the season starts. The last thing we want is for Cammalleri to come in pouting and thinking the GM is a fool, the coach is annoying, and the team plays like losers.

I don't blame Cammalleri though. He's 31, in his last year of his contract, and he came here thinking he would be playing with Iginla and competing for the playoffs. Feaster can talk all he wants but if he's not offering Cammalleri an extension, Cammalleri isn't stupid enough to think he's part of the solution.

As for the return, I'm thinking that the most likely return will come in the form of a younger version of a Stempniak/Bourque type player. A streaky scorer making solid money with 2-3 years of team control left. Cammalleri is a productive player, but $6M cap hit is a lot to add to a team in today's environment and teams looking to make the cap floor probably aren't liking the $7M in salary owed.

Same can be said for Tangs- however, Cammy has a lot more value~ a lot of teams would love to have this guy so I don't think we should under-value him just because he is on the Flames.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by FAN

I understand fans wanting to maximize Cammalleri's value, but if Cammalleri wants to be traded Feaster should trade him before the season starts. The last thing we want is for Cammalleri to come in pouting and thinking the GM is a fool, the coach is annoying, and the team plays like losers.

I don't blame Cammalleri though. He's 31, in his last year of his contract, and he came here thinking he would be playing with Iginla and competing for the playoffs. Feaster can talk all he wants but if he's not offering Cammalleri an extension, Cammalleri isn't stupid enough to think he's part of the solution.

As for the return, I'm thinking that the most likely return will come in the form of a younger version of a Stempniak/Bourque type player. A streaky scorer making solid money with 2-3 years of team control left. Cammalleri is a productive player, but $6M cap hit is a lot to add to a team in today's environment and teams looking to make the cap floor probably aren't liking the $7M in salary owed.

We have Cammy over a barrel. He holds no cards in this situation, so the Flames should trade him when it's best for them, even if that is the deadline next year. It's a contract year for him, and based on recent performance, this year is very important to him and there is a lot of money on the line.

He may prefer to start his season elsewhere, but if that doesn't happen for him he actually has no motivatio to sulk and pout. He needs to put up good numbers for two reasons: 1. Generate interest from a contending team at deadline time as I'm sure this would be his preference, 2. Ensure what could be his last contract in the NHL depending on length is a good one.

If he has a bad year because he's being a baby, he'll put himself into "has to prove himself" territory and will be getting a low long term offer or be forced to take a one year contract the following season and I'm sure he doesn't want that.

Despite Cammy asking to be out, in this situation the Flames hold all the cards.

[Bourque's Twin]

I do not see the Sens giving up the 17th overall pick for Cammy, especially because they do not have a 2nd round pick.

Cammy is in the last year of his contract, which increases the risk for the team that trades for him because he becomes a UFA at the end of the season.

I think the Flames would be lucky to grab Dallas' 30th overall pick from Boston or Columbus' 27th overall pick. Realistically, I think Cammy could fetch the Flames a pretty good prospect (Khoklachev) + 4th round draft pick.

[Flame Of Liberty]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Another one of the Country Club wants out.

Ship 'em all out.

This. He should be on the first bus out of town.

I don't recall he signed a "will only play for a non-rebuilding team" clause. What a pro.

[Walter Reed]

Originally Posted by BACKCHECK!!!

I think he's easily worth a 1st rounder at the deadline.

Prior to the draft? Not so much.

If the Flames can acquire a 1st round selection in exchange for Cammalleri then Feaster should be GM of the year.

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire

I'm a huge Cammalleri fan. I want him to stick around because his production was good last season and I can't see him falling off. But again, if he doesn't want to be here, there's nothing Feaster can do about it.

I'm just really worried about next season. You've got two of the Flames' most high-profile veterans (Tanguay, Cammalleri) and both of them (might) want out. That doesn't look good. Going through with a rebuild is all fine and well, but we have to ice an NHL roster to remain at least a little bit competitive. Trade away those guys and we're going to be giving the '74-'75 Capitals a run for their money.

If Cammalleri truly wants out though, I'd like to see:

To DET: Cammalleri
To CGY: Riley Sheahan

Build around that.

We just acquired a Riley Sheahan type player in Knight though. I would rather target players such as Jurco, Ouellet or Sproul in a trade scenario with Detroit.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire

I'm a huge Cammalleri fan. I want him to stick around because his production was good last season and I can't see him falling off. But again, if he doesn't want to be here, there's nothing Feaster can do about it.

I'm just really worried about next season. You've got two of the Flames' most high-profile veterans (Tanguay, Cammalleri) and both of them (might) want out. That doesn't look good. Going through with a rebuild is all fine and well, but we have to ice an NHL roster to remain at least a little bit competitive. Trade away those guys and we're going to be giving the '74-'75 Capitals a run for their money.

If Cammalleri truly wants out though, I'd like to see:

To DET: Cammalleri
To CGY: Riley Sheahan

Build around that.

I would pass. I have no interest in acquiring players with potential off ice issues.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

I would pass. I have no interest in acquiring players with potential off ice issues.

What if we also got the Teletubby costume in the trade?

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

We have Cammy over a barrel. He holds no cards in this situation, so the Flames should trade him when it's best for them, even if that is the deadline next year. It's a contract year for him, and based on recent performance, this year is very important to him and there is a lot of money on the line.

He may prefer to start his season elsewhere, but if that doesn't happen for him he actually has no motivatio to sulk and pout. He needs to put up good numbers for two reasons: 1. Generate interest from a contending team at deadline time as I'm sure this would be his preference, 2. Ensure what could be his last contract in the NHL depending on length is a good one.

If he has a bad year because he's being a baby, he'll put himself into "has to prove himself" territory and will be getting a low long term offer or be forced to take a one year contract the following season and I'm sure he doesn't want that.

Despite Cammy asking to be out, in this situation the Flames hold all the cards.

I see the merit in what you're saying, but I agree with FAN. There's always that balance between what the best business decision is, or GM decision which in this case is your point- and what is best for the team. These are critical years in early days development land for Flames prospects and kids trying to make the NHL. Do we need a disgruntled vet slacking and pissy because his wishes were not granted?

In the instance we held onto Cammy until the trade deadline, people have to keep in mind that he would be day-in-day-out influencing the dressing room. He would be a veteran player that young guys look up to. We will have lots of young guys that will be filling the roster learning from guys just like Cammy, and if you decline his request and keep him around I don't think it's good for the team environment, I don't think it sends a good message to players in the system, to UFA's, I think his attitude slides, and I think he carries forward that sense of entitlement so prevalent and plaguing within the Flames over the last few seasons.

If the guy wants out, just do your best to grant his wish and move on, get the best- and fair- value for your team, and really kick this rebuild into high gear. I don't think fans give a rats ass if Cammy is here or not. I think people have figured out what is happening. Even your most casual fan knows that this team is headed in a new direction.

How is everyone so certain you'd get better value at the deadline...? You might, but he also will be pure rental.

Finally, people thinking that Silfverberg is attainable for Cammy might be on acid. Not happening in my opinion.