Article: Season Ticket Holder Meeting Notes and Info

[BigFlameDog]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

Actually I have some info on that, Ken King mentioned separately that everyone in the league was under the assumption that the offer sheet would've been viable as six teams put in offers to ROR. Colorado would not have allowed the situation to drag on and be put in the situation of having to match had they known that there was an issue (they would've been able to remove all bargaining power that ROR would've had). It was a bit of a gong show, but all the teams were under the assumption that it was legal and it was a mistake for not clarifying it (With six teams throwing offers in the pot, I would assume that it would've been A-OK as well because who would throw away a 1st + 3rd for nothing)

But...but...but...Feaster is the worst GM in the league and a complete laughing stock and needs to be fired because he didn't know the rules.



Sadly I think you could sticky this on the front page and we would still have posters in here DEMANDING an explanation. The truth is the league should be counting their blessing that Colorado matched because that situation could have been a poop show for NHL head office.

[CedarMeter]

I'm going today..I'm more interested in the spread than the hockey talk though.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by BigFlameDog

But...but...but...Feaster is the worst GM in the league and a complete laughing stock and needs to be fired because he didn't know the rules.



Sadly I think you could sticky this on the front page and we would still have posters in here DEMANDING an explanation. The truth is the league should be counting their blessing that Colorado matched because that situation could have been a poop show for NHL head office.

Its not that he thought it would be ok, it was that he didn't do his due diligence to verify. Ignorance and assumptions can be forgiven, but laziness is not ok for a GM.

That, and thinking ROR was an elite center, would have lost a early 1st round pick and the contract would be been a nightmare in 2 years.

[Madman]

Originally Posted by fotze

Maybe they mentioned the 5'9" guy to get other teams to get him.

Yeah, cause other teams look to the Calgary Flames for their drafting prowess.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by united

I agree with others. I was taken aback when he said the Backlund stuff. He's 24 and has been riddled with injuries so far. I know they said he has durability issues but he's solid at both ends of the ice and has plenty of room to improve. I would be shocked if he doesn't develop into a good #2 center, hopefully with the Flames.

Same talent evaluators who thought Cervenka was a top 6 forward, Babchuk was a 50 point player and Dennis Wideman was a top pairing defender.

Having said that, backlund is a lot more pahlsson than he is langkow. I don't disagree much with their assessment on this one.

He's not a prospect anymore. Until he does something, characterizing him as a third line centre is exactly what he is. He's a top line centre for Calgary because there is nobody else.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Feaster re-signed Sarich last summer, that is why it is on him. What i don't understand is that they wanted another player, but when they could not get him, they offered the "insurance policy" Sarich a 2 year deal. If he was not what they wanted, then why 2 years?

My mistake I thought he was still on the old Sutter contract

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by saillias

My mistake I thought he was still on the old Sutter contract

Nah, this 'ntc' 'cap jail' contract is all his. Strange that Feaster wpuld be shovelling #### into his own mouth about one of his recent signings.

Maybe I am reading it wrong.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by moon

Where did Feaster say it was a guy who was 5'9 and thick? Did united say that is the recap or is that something someone else heard?

Also I don't think it would be all that risky at all to have Domi ranked 9-12 so it seems like Petan fits the description that united recapped better than Domi.

From the link in the first post:

"Looking forward to the draft, they have a 5-9 player that is somewhat high on their draft list, but if he’s build solidly like Marty St. Louis, then that it shouldn’t be a problem. If the player is short and not built solidly like that they would prefer going with someone bigger."

So Domi is fine because he's 5'9 190 and built very solidly and an exceptionally skilled player who also happens to have breakaway speed. Petan wouldn't be ranked as highly because he's 5'9 166 and both short and slender.

I guess no one else clicked the link on the first post?

Not sure why the small player ranked in the top 12 has to be risky or where you got that part from. Reading between the lines from what was posted it sounds like they rank Domi quite high and probably don't have Petan ranked in the first round.

[calgARI]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

He's not a prospect anymore. Until he does something, characterizing him as a third line centre is exactly what he is. He's a top line centre for Calgary because there is nobody else.

To be fair, he is really the 1st and 3rd line center while Stajan is the 2nd and 4th line center.

[RM14]

What was the food last night? The invitation say's "reception style cusine". I want to strategically plan my dinner to save room if there is something good!

[moon]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

From the link in the first post:

"Looking forward to the draft, they have a 5-9 player that is somewhat high on their draft list, but if he’s build solidly like Marty St. Louis, then that it shouldn’t be a problem. If the player is short and not built solidly like that they would prefer going with someone bigger."

So Domi is fine because he's 5'9 190 and built very solidly and an exceptionally skilled player who also happens to have breakaway speed. Petan wouldn't be ranked as highly because he's 5'9 166 and both short and slender.

I guess no one else clicked the link on the first post?

Not sure why the small player ranked in the top 12 has to be risky or where you got that part from. Reading between the lines from what was posted it sounds like they rank Domi quite high and probably don't have Petan ranked in the first round.

Didn't remember any comment on a small guy from the first post and went on off of united's points in which Feaster said he knew it would be a risk. That is where the risk part came in from my post. I guess for me if he is describing Domi and having him in the 10-12 that isn't a risky pick at all, or at least no more risky than anyone else they are likely choosing there.

[united]

Updating post #19 now. Will fill it in more as I remember. Help appreciated from other attendees!

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...2&postcount=19

[Drury18]

Conroy told a story about how veterans in his career who made the young and new guys feel comfortable made a huge difference. Followed it up with one where he found Hankowski sitting by himself at the 'Dome as everyone else had left...ripped into Giordano and Glencross for leaving him behind - this needs to change going forward.

This is why I love Conroy and love the fact the Flames took him on as Management.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by troutman

I think it is silly that they say certain things at these meetings are "in confidence". If something should remain a secret, they should not be telling season ticket holders. No season ticket holder signed a confidentiality agreement.

Meh - you take the comment far too seriously. They know, as does everyone else in attendance, that if they are telling something at a STH meeting it's no secret.

KK pretty much always asks "are there any bloggers or CPers" and always says that "he'll deny anything on which he's quoted".

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by nickerjones

so ....

Max Domi
Ht/Wt:5'10"/190 lbs
Position:C
Team: London (OHL)

He is the only one projected in the first round close to 5'9 right?

Yeah and by the sounds of it the Flames arent the only team that have him in the 10-12 area. Not sure how the Flames can take him without trading up with the Penguins pick or taking him at #6 (highly doubtful).

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Drury18

This is why I love Conroy and love the fact the Flames took him on as Management.

Now I feel sorry for Hanowski... poor kid. That's not how you treat newcomers at all.

[Iggy3x]

Originally Posted by Drury18

This is why I love Conroy and love the fact the Flames took him on as Management.

If Gio is supposed to be the next captain, leaving Hanowski behind really isn't too captainy. Could be an oversight though.

[united]

Originally Posted by RM14

What was the food last night? The invitation say's "reception style cusine". I want to strategically plan my dinner to save room if there is something good!

Sliced beef, buns, samosas, sushi, breaded shrimp (I think - didn't have it), veggie platters, cheese platters, fruit platters, open bar, coffee.

[browna]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

Meh - you take the comment far too seriously. They know, as does everyone else in attendance, that if they are telling something at a STH meeting it's no secret.

KK pretty much always asks "are there any bloggers or CPers" and always says that "he'll deny anything on which he's quoted".

That said, media aren't invited or probably even encouraged, so their trying to give some sort of illusion that STH's (and I am one of them) are getting inside info...even though anyone with internet access in the world can see this message board. As trout said, you're not getting patted down or, its a pretty wide open type event, as long as you're one of the 13000 ticket holders, and can bring a guest or two, it's hardly the internal boardroom of the franchise where secrets are discussed and not to be shared.

Not sure how KK can say he can "deny" if quoted on anything he talks about in it.

[JD]

Conroy telling the story was great. When he was asked to speak to the dressing room dynamic, he started out tentatively, almost as though he hadn't planned on talking at all, and then once he got rolling, well... he rolled.

But the best part is when he got to the point where he saw Hanowski sitting alone and asked him why he wasn't with the other guys for lunch, "and then, well, I LOST IT!!!"... Craig Conroy, aka, the Champ.

Conroy related back to the Heritage Classic and how the 89 Flames welcomed him into the room and how that was one of the reasons they were successful, that they truly had a great room and treated everyone like family. He went on to describe how Al MacInnis brought that attitude to the Blues dressing room and it's a big part of why that franchise was successful during that time. He said we need to re-establish that in order to bring back the winning culture. Can't say I disagree.