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Old 05-22-2013, 01:05 AM   #21
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I'm always waiting for the next gem to come spewing out of him. I've honestly wondered if he can even feed himself or if he had somebody tie his skates for him when he played.

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This thread title linked video clip is completely misleading. Healy didn't say Datsyuk doesn't have god blessed talent. He said "When you look at a guy like Datsyuk... Not all the god-blessed talent in the world..." How you interpret that is up to you, but let's get the quote right as there is a big difference in what Healy said and what his words are being twisted into.
Pretty easy to interpret. He's saying Datsyuk isn't all that talented. So the title is not misleading at all.

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This thread title linked video clip is completely misleading. Healy didn't say Datsyuk doesn't have god blessed talent. He said "When you look at a guy like Datsyuk... Not all the god-blessed talent in the world..." How you interpret that is up to you, but let's get the quote right as there is a big difference in what Healy said and what his words are being twisted into.
I hate people who don't hate Healy. He is the worst, and there are a lot of bad ones out there.
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Can't believe how bad that CBC panel is. Healy, Stock and Weekes. Three absolute NHL hacks. The Sportsnet panel are geniuses compared to that.

And this is the national broadcaster.

No kidding! Hockey in general has got pretty weak panels...If you look at other sports, (NFL on both CBS and FOX, NBA on TNT) they usually have big-time credible guys, hall of famers who've accomplished enough on the playing field that they don't have to sound like hacks in their retirement.

CBC's got two backup goalies and a Dan O'Toole look a like on their flagship broadcast.
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Everything Glen Healy says is an embarrassment to people who know the game of hockey.

He is the lowest form of reporting and the CBC should be ashamed that they pay him for this inane opinions.
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This thread title linked video clip is completely misleading. Healy didn't say Datsyuk doesn't have god blessed talent. He said "When you look at a guy like Datsyuk... Not all the god-blessed talent in the world..." How you interpret that is up to you, but let's get the quote right as there is a big difference in what Healy said and what his words are being twisted into.
I'm not really sure how you can interpret that differently. If someone were to comment that "you're not the smartest guy in the world", how would you interpret it other than him saying you're not smart?
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From a guy who always defends broadcasters.......


.....I got nothing.
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This thread title linked video clip is completely misleading. Healy didn't say Datsyuk doesn't have god blessed talent. He said "When you look at a guy like Datsyuk... Not all the god-blessed talent in the world..." How you interpret that is up to you, but let's get the quote right as there is a big difference in what Healy said and what his words are being twisted into.
That's not the absolute worst attempt to spin a quote in the history of hockey broadcasting, but... actually yes it is.
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Healy probably thinks he is throwing out "gems", hoping to take Don Cherry's spot as the resident grumpy old man with knowledge, character and heart, when the time comes.
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This thread title linked video clip is completely misleading. Healy didn't say Datsyuk doesn't have god blessed talent. He said "When you look at a guy like Datsyuk... Not all the god-blessed talent in the world..." How you interpret that is up to you, but let's get the quote right as there is a big difference in what Healy said and what his words are being twisted into.
Yea. Not ALL the talent guys, he did leave a tiny bit for the rest of us...
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Pretty easy to interpret. He's saying Datsyuk isn't all that talented. So the title is not misleading at all.
No. He's talking about god-given talent - the innate talent people are born with. That's different from the talent developed through practice and hard work.

What Healy is saying is that Datsyuk has continued to work very, very hard throughout his hockey career to hone his talent. Some guys are just naturally very talented, and don't have to work as hard to become professional hockey players.

There's a reason Datsyuk was drafted so late - he didn't jump out as a naturally elite talent at age 16-18. But he continued to develop his talent past the point where a lot of hockey players just start coasting. Developed talent versus god-given talent.

A non-hockey example is Steve Nash. Is he talented? Yep. Is he naturally athletic? Yes. But far less so than a lot of his peers. Nash became an elite basketball player by developing and honing his skills with more dedication and focus than a lot of other NBA players.
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I know Datsyuk can stickhandle in a phone booth, but Kane can stickhandle ON a phone book. Advantage Kane.....kidding.
Pfft, like either of those 2 are anything compared to Huselius. That guy can stick handle a phone book!

I will never forget that gem from Rob Kerr, and yes I was being sarcastic
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Can't believe how bad that CBC panel is. Healy, Stock and Weekes. Three absolute NHL hacks. The Sportsnet panel are geniuses compared to that.

And this is the national broadcaster.
I actually don't mind Stock. I think he has improved a lot and seems to be showing more personality and composure on television now. Weekes is a pleasant enough guy, but is just too rigid and business-like. Friedman is just weird to me though especially when he is interviewing players face-to-face. I could never stand Healy though, but I think it's just the way it is now that every panel has to have one jerk.

On his actual statement regarding Datsyuk, the only defense I would give Healy is that maybe he was trying too hard to emphasize that Datsyuk isn't just God-given talent, but he is a hard worker and worked hard his whole career to develop his skills, and Healy went over the top to make that point.

When Datsyuk entered the league, I doubt too many people thought he was a future Selke candidate and winner. That was a result of his focus and work ethic.
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Can't believe how bad that CBC panel is. Healy, Stock and Weekes. Three absolute NHL hacks. The Sportsnet panel are geniuses compared to that.

And this is the national broadcaster.

I actually like Weekes. Terrible color-man (haha sounds racist), but I like what he brings to the round table discussions. And holy **** does he have nice suits, dude knows how to dress.
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No. He's talking about god-given talent - the innate talent people are born with. That's different from the talent developed through practice and hard work.

What Healy is saying is that Datsyuk has continued to work very, very hard throughout his hockey career to hone his talent. Some guys are just naturally very talented, and don't have to work as hard to become professional hockey players.

There's a reason Datsyuk was drafted so late - he didn't jump out as a naturally elite talent at age 16-18. But he continued to develop his talent past the point where a lot of hockey players just start coasting. Developed talent versus god-given talent.

A non-hockey example is Steve Nash. Is he talented? Yep. Is he naturally athletic? Yes. But far less so than a lot of his peers. Nash became an elite basketball player by developing and honing his skills with more dedication and focus than a lot of other NBA players.
That's a pretty excellent defense of what Healy said. If that's what he meant, ok, I can accept that. After reading your post here and the Sakic thread I've come to the conclusion you're an excellent poster.
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Can't believe how bad that CBC panel is. Healy, Stock and Weekes. Three absolute NHL hacks. The Sportsnet panel are geniuses compared to that.

And this is the national broadcaster.
CBC would be better off putting up a panel of old Beachcombers actors, Relic would have more insight than these guys
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From a guy who always defends broadcasters.......


.....I got nothing.
But...but... he has a Stanley Cup ring.

I'm sure it was awfully hard opening and closing that gate door, while filling up Richter's water bottle and tying his laces.
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I think Healy sucks as much as the next guy, but is it at all possible he just didn't spit it out right? maybe he meant to say "not only all the God-given talent in the world, but.."

it's happened before...like that time Pang said that Subban needs to learn how to do things the white way.
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No kidding! Hockey in general has got pretty weak panels...If you look at other sports, (NFL on both CBS and FOX, NBA on TNT) they usually have big-time credible guys, hall of famers who've accomplished enough on the playing field that they don't have to sound like hacks in their retirement.

CBC's got two backup goalies and a Dan O'Toole look a like on their flagship broadcast.
Really? I agree Healy and Weeks don't cut it, but the NFL pannels are horrible IMO. I get what you are saying, the NFL pannels are filled with more star power, but man are the bulk of them morons. Just because someone was a hall of fame player because they could run fast and knew how to catch or throw, doesn't mean they have the intellecutual capability to analyse the game effectively from a pannel or broadcaster point of view. I find the NFL pannels do nothing but spout typical locker room catch phrases and provide little inisght or educated thought. Obviously that's a generalization, there are good NFL pannel memebers, but on a whole I find the quality of analysis no better or even worse than what we see in the NHL.
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I think Healy sucks as much as the next guy, but is it at all possible he just didn't spit it out right? maybe he meant to say "not only all the God-given talent in the world, but.."

it's happened before...like that time Pang said that Subban needs to learn how to do things the white way.
Also, I think that he meant to compliment Datsyuk in a way. He praised his work ethic. The thing about Healy is that he doesn't know how to keep his cool - it's like he feels that he has to be extremely opinionated to be listened to so he often says things that are over the top. I really can't stand the guy, but I think he was trying to elude to the fact that Datsyuk's work ethic is what makes him an astounding player. Still a dumb thing to say, though.
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