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This is an honest question: Why do so few people have basements in places such as OKC? Cost reasons during construction or maybe the ground is difficult to dig into?
Having a basement is a pretty unique Canadian thing sometimes compared to a lot of the US.
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This is an honest question: Why do so few people have basements in places such as OKC? Cost reasons during construction or maybe the ground is difficult to dig into?
Having a basement is a pretty unique Canadian thing sometimes compared to a lot of the US.
Built on mostly rock and would have to dynamite it out. Too costly from what I have heard. However I'm not sure why they don't just dig out a small box, enough for 4-6 people to live for 24-48hrs.
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Mostly a cost thing, I believe. The ground doesn't freeze there, so no real need for it from a foundation point of view. My buddy in Texas always thought it would just attract bugs and snakes anyway.
It does seem to make a lot of sense to make a basement just large enough to house the hot water tank, the fuse box, and maybe 6 people in case of a tornado.
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37 confirmed dead inluding a family of 4 with a baby that tried to shelter in a freezer. I really hope someday science can find a way to stop these things from forming.
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Built on mostly rock and would have to dynamite it out. Too costly from what I have heard. However I'm not sure why they don't just dig out a small box, enough for 4-6 people to live for 24-48hrs.
First off our red clay and rock make it tough to built basements. We do have small tornado shelters. It's easier and cheaper to put them in when you build a house. A lot of new homes cut a box out of the slab in their garage , insert a metal box and stairs and you have a shelter. I was in one for an hour today. They are cramped , small, Hot but they save lives. They are 3-5000 bucks, so they are pretty costly. I wish Oklahoma would give a tax credit or something so more people would put these in.
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51 confirmed dead....at least 20 of those are children....many more expected to be found through the next 24 hours. (from the state medical examiner spokesperson)
When I heard about the Tornado, I was hoping that it wouldn't have hit in your town Nicker, sorry that it did and so close to where you live. I'm glad that you are alright and safe. I hate when random things like this and earthquakes happen especially in populated areas. At least with Hurricanes or other things like Floods, you can prepare and get the hell out of the way.
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It's horrible. 24 children still unaccounted for and they are calling it a recovery mission now rather than rescue. Nothing but sadness in these parts tonight. Joplin remembers the pain all too well. Hell, Moore itself remembers it from 1999 and 2003.
First thing we did was put in a storm shelter. It isn't an underground one but rather one that is bolted into the garage pad which is "guaranteed" to withstand a EF4 and is able to take a 2x4 end on at 250 mph. It was about the same price as an underground one. We consider an underground one all the time but it would require the removal of all of our trees (in order to dig).
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It's horrible. 24 children still unaccounted for and they are calling it a recovery mission now rather than rescue. Nothing but sadness in these parts tonight. Joplin remembers the pain all too well. Hell, Moore itself remembers it from 1999 and 2003.
First thing we did was put in a storm shelter. It isn't an underground one but rather one that is bolted into the garage pad which is "guaranteed" to withstand a EF4 and is able to take a 2x4 end on at 250 mph. It was about the same price as an underground one. We consider an underground one all the time but it would require the removal of all of our trees (in order to dig).
Ernie ... Look into in ground ones that can be cut into your existing slab in your garage. Meteorologist yesterday at the Shawnee tornado and today in the Moore tornado point blank said if your anywhere but below ground , even an above ground shelter" your odds of survival are nearly 0 if you took a direct hit. That's scary eh? The people next door to me had one cut into their garage floor on an existing house and it took them 6 hours and minimal mess.
Honest question, but isn't there a requirement or something for places like schools to have these underground safe rooms for the kids and teachers? If not, any idea why?
I'm really glad to hear you're okay nicker. I can't believe the pictures we're seeing and can't imagine what you are going through. My heart goes out to everyone who has been hurt and of course to those who have lost loved ones. All those poor little babies, absolutely devastating.
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So glad you're safe, Nick. I logged in from my phone just when you said you were hunkering down and then my phone died - just got home from the hospital (kid got admitted for pneumonia) and came to check the thread to see how you fared. My Okie friends seemed to all be out of the path these storms were taking which had us all relieved, so it was just you I hadn't been able to check on.
Holy bejeebers, what a mess - just turned CNN on and seeing the mess. Those children... My heart hurts for all those affected.
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Honest question, but isn't there a requirement or something for places like schools to have these underground safe rooms for the kids and teachers? If not, any idea why?
I'm really glad to hear you're okay nicker. I can't believe the pictures we're seeing and can't imagine what you are going through. My heart goes out to everyone who has been hurt and of course to those who have lost loved ones. All those poor little babies, absolutely devastating.
Schools will usually have what's classified as a "safe room". Most schools have 8" exterior CMU ( concrete) walls. The safe rooms are usually 12" or 16" Reinforced CMU walls. However sometimes these tornados are just to powerful. Thanks for all the well wishes. My city is shut down and I'm pretty my locked in my neighborhood. Tomorrow ill get out and try to help with cleanup. Moore has had to rebuild before and we will do it again. Thanks for all the support. If you want to help you can donate to the Red Cross .... Or directly to my personal account so I can bank enough cash to live in Calgary til I can get this immigration stuff processed and work there ( ok sad attempt at a joke but hey you gotta keep the mood light in somber situations ) but really a couple guys on my hockey team lost everything ( home , pets, clothes) so the Red Cross donations or even send clothes/shoes/bottled water etc to them would def help.
As much I'm ready to move to Calgary and never have to deal with these things again .... This will always be
