[Trade] Bouwmeester to Blues for conditional 2013 1st, Cundari and goaltender Reto Berra

[calgARI]

Originally Posted by Badger Bob

As problematic as Feaster has been, a new GM could disrupt the next few months without having a feel for the organization's direction.

Unfortunate but true. For what it's worth Burke likes NCAA players as well. The difference is that Burke knows you need more than two centers on a team to be successful and he also wants a lot of grit and toughness.

[JazzyFlame]

Originally Posted by dino7c

can't believe this team has 3 first rounders with one likely being top three and people still aren't happy

One is given through Feaster's ineptness a building good teams.

The other two, as it stands right now, seem to have been acquired by getting ripped off.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by JazzyFlame

One is given through Feaster's ineptness a building good teams.

The other two, as it stands right now, seem to have been acquired by getting ripped off.

thats a matter of opinion...I don't think teams were lining up to take 6.68M of Jaybo. Had the team been a bit better Iggy would have likely left for nothing after getting worked in the first round

things are going pretty well for the Flames re-build wise

[Badger Bob]

Originally Posted by dino7c

can't believe this team has 3 first rounders with one likely being top three and people still aren't happy

Like the OP intimated, internet access for some of these kids, who forgot to take their Ritalin, they become unhinged while posting on this forum.

[Mike Vernon]

Are you kidding me Feaster! You could have got ZERO for Iginla, he just needed to play 17 more games and bye bye. He waived his no trade to get YOU a draft pick and prospects.

If Feaster was doing his job he should have got Iginla an extension LAST YEAR.

I honestly have been a Feast supporter until tonight. He has traded our two best players for nothing. Draft picks dont mean anything to me. Most drafted players are YEARS from playing with the big boys and we are going to end up with two picks that are 20+ from the top 5. Give me a break, terrible trades, no accountability, this Flames team will be bad for five years.

[FanIn80]

Iginla never once "waivered from his list." Pittsburgh was on the list, just like Boston was. Feaster presented him with three offers, and Iggy chose the one with Pittsburgh.

I still don't get the spin people are putting on this whole thing. He had a no move clause. That means he had full control over where he went. Feaster trying to pin this on Iginla just tells me it's time for him to go. Like NOW. I don't want a lame duck GM handling the Kipper trade (or any others).

[Young-Sneezy]

Originally Posted by mister__big

This trade was rubbish. Basically all we got was a first-rounder.

Tomorrow we'll wake up to find Kipper traded to Toronto for a bag of Kessel's worn jocks.

the average calgarypuck user at its finest... AHEM

From the [News] Bouwmeester admits Flames have approached him about trade" thread:

Originally Posted by mister__big

Anything less than a top prospect + bottom pairing NHL d-man for Bouw will be a bad trade IMO. A first-round pick coming back is a strong possibility, but it most likely won't come packaged with a top prospect which is something we desperately need now.

So explain to me how a first rounder, plus a d man, PLUS ANOTHER PLAYER is any worse than WHAT YOU JUST POSTED.

seriously, do you just post for the sake of bitching?

[BOSSY]

Originally Posted by getbak

http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=663316

Originally Posted by Muta

Despite his shaky potential, I'd rather have Rattie than both of Cundari and Berra.

It seems to me that that Feaster and Co. think they're smarter than everybody else when it comes to prospects. I really don't think that's the smartest strategy.

I'm legitimately scared to see how much Feaster is going to throw away by Wednesday.

In this instance I'd say they are smarter then anyone posting here...

[browna]

Originally Posted by Badger Bob

The staff already has their rankings/strategy in place, irrespective of the recent acquistions. As problematic as Feaster has been, a new GM could disrupt the next few months without having a feel for the organization's direction.

I think they thought long and hard about firing him after the ROR debacle, but with the moves needing to be made to possibly be "renters" or full on "sellers", the turnaround time was too much. Now, Feaster can be cast away Thursday (likely not that quick, but...)and the new person have almost 3 months until the draft at the very end of June and July 5 UFA.

As I have pontificated many times, the structure with Flames management is more broken then just Feaster, who's IMO a pawn and hired to be as such IMO, but a necessary pawn to at least do the deals we're seeing now.

Once these deals are done...we'll see. The PC on Wed will be interesting...and at some point with such an organizational clearing of the house, KK or een the owners need to address the fan base.

[dino7c]

Kipper is playing like Kessel's worn socks so that would be a fair deal

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by dino7c

can't believe this team has 3 first rounders with one likely being top three and people still aren't happy

Happy to be a completely crappy team now that got first rounders for Iginla and Jbo? I don´t know how much more they could have gotten but sure as hell not any less than that.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

He could be a lame duck. He sells off the teams players and the new guy comes in with a clean slate.

I'm beginning to think this is the case.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Iginla never once "waivered from his list." Pittsburgh was on the list, just like Boston was. Feaster presented him with three offers, and Iggy chose the one with Pittsburgh.

I still don't get the spin people are putting on this whole thing. He had a no move clause. That means he had full control over where he went. Feaster trying to pin this on Iginla just tells me it's time for him to go. Like NOW. I don't want a lame duck GM handling the Kipper trade (or any others).

come on now, the real story is they made a deal with Boston but Iggy wouldn't waive

lol Kipper trade, we are lucky to get a 7th

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by Young-Sneezy

the average calgarypuck user at its finest... AHEM

From the [News] Bouwmeester admits Flames have approached him about trade" thread:



So explain to me how a first rounder, plus a d man, PLUS ANOTHER PLAYER is any worse than WHAT YOU JUST POSTED.

seriously, do you just post for the sake of bitching?

Well done. I'm quite curious to hear this explanation as well.

[Kjesse]

These trades are like a car accident in progress, slown down 100 times and playing out like a don't-drink-and-drive commercial.

For whatever reason, and I have plenty of theories, Feaster is not able to obtain as valuable prospects in his trades compared to what other GM's are able to accomplish, this year and years past as comparables.

Flames fans (since 1986 in my case) just have to watch this play out. I've bought no tickets this year and the only game I attended was painful to watch.

I have no confidence in Feaster's ability to negotiate a deal which includes surplus value, nor in his hockey sense. I also think that as long as Ken King has any influence in hockey decisions (which includes hiring a GM), he's got to be pushed aside. It is time.

[browna]

Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy

That's just cheap. Feaster is never going to win a popularity contest with Iggy. He made his point the day after the trade. Be a professional and move on.

He sounds like a scorned ex-girlfriend bitching to her friends at the bar 6 months after getting dumped.

It really was borderline vengeful.

Locally, crapping on Iginla is bad enough.

Worse, league wide, making Iginla out as the bad guy, and super-agent Don Meehan as his accomplice, is going to leave a black mark in the NHLPA circles (going down the Oilers road of UFA ignoring Calgary as a destination).

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Saqe

Happy to be a completely crappy team now that got first rounders for Iginla and Jbo? I don´t know how much more they could have gotten but sure as hell not any less than that.

well they could have got nothing for Iggy for one

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Young-Sneezy

the average calgarypuck user at its finest... AHEM

From the [News] Bouwmeester admits Flames have approached him about trade" thread:



So explain to me how a first rounder, plus a d man, PLUS ANOTHER PLAYER is any worse than WHAT YOU JUST POSTED.

seriously, do you just post for the sake of bitching?

I don't know the guy's posting history on this, but the point of the post you quote was wanting a TOP prospect in return. Something we didn't get, and most likely is the reason he's upset. A first-round pick and a top prospect is a hell of a lot different than a first-round pick and two questionable prospects with limited upside.

[$ven27]

When's the last time we actually won a trade? Besides the Kipper one.

[gargamel]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Feaster trying to pin this on Iginla just tells me it's time for him to go.

I've seen a lot of paraphrasing, but does anyone have Feaster's exact quotes about Iginla? People said that King threw Iginla under the bus a few days ago and I ripped King for it, but then I heard the interview and he did nothing of the sort. I don't want to make the same mistake again with Feaster.

If he really did blame Iginla for wavering, then he's gotta go. Hopefully he didn't, because I'd like to think that our organization at least still has some class even if it doesn't have any skill.