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03-01-2013, 10:50 AM
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Not Jim Playfair
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by HELPNEEDED
See if Sherman is willing to trade Stastny now.
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There will be no takers unless they eat a significant portion of his terrible contract.
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03-01-2013, 10:51 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by puckluck2
But you obviously do.
This scenario would have taken days for lawyers to come to a conclusion and possibly court to settle it but Dissentowner knows all the answers and this isn't even a story.
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No, it wouldn't. You are seeing things that are not even there. Some journalist can't read the CBA right and looks for a story that isn't there and you panick and buy iy hook, line, and sinker.
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03-01-2013, 10:51 AM
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Franchise Player
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At minimum Sportsnet has discovered a part of the CBA that needs to be clarified, and at maximum, gross incompetence by a GM. Not sure why people are freaking out at them.
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Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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03-01-2013, 10:52 AM
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#1304
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by calgARI
There will be no takers unless they eat a significant portion of his terrible contract.
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I think Stastny has pretty good value. A team like the Leafs would jump on an opportunity to land him.
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03-01-2013, 10:52 AM
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Not Jim Playfair
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
You don't see mistakes like this happen all the time, but they do happen. Someone already mentioned Tallon not qualifying his RFAs in time.
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Happened with Lamoriello with Rafalski and a couple other RFA's once too.
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03-01-2013, 10:53 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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I just find it unbelievable that people think a GM would put in an offer sheet on a guy that could possibly have to pass through waivers without knowing the facts about it. It just wouldn't happen.
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03-01-2013, 10:53 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
no you are misunderstanding the point...
The Summary does not specify the player has to be on the signing team's RFA list. All it says is the player has to be on "a club's" RFA list.
"a club" implies that if the player is on any team's RFA list he is exempt. In any case its arguable. If the intention is for only the signing club, the language should read "the club's RFA list"
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True, and again this is based on the summary we have access to, not the actual wording in the CBA.
Irrelevant now but interesting none the less.
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03-01-2013, 10:53 AM
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#1308
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Silicon Valley
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Originally Posted by nik-
At minimum Sportsnet has discovered a part of the CBA that needs to be clarified, and at maximum, gross incompetence by a GM. Not sure why people are freaking out at them.
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Not sure if you mean me, but I'm not freaking out. Academic curiosity, mostly...
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03-01-2013, 10:54 AM
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#1309
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Silicon Valley
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
I just find it unbelievable that people think a GM would put in an offer sheet on a guy that could possibly have to pass through waivers without knowing the facts about it. It just wouldn't happen.
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What Ari said...
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Originally Posted by calgARI
Happened with Lamoriello with Rafalski and a couple other RFA's once too.
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03-01-2013, 10:54 AM
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
"A club" is a very different statement then "the club"?
This line:
"For further clarity, if Club A trades such a Player to Club B and Club B signs the Player to an SPC,such Player will be exempt from the application of CBA 13.23."
Also makes it seem like the player is exempt from rule 13.23 which states they much clear waivers, if they change teams.
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That line specifically mentions only via trade. In short, the player would transfer from team A's reserve/RFA list to team B's before being signed.
The "a club" language is the crux of the debate. It is wildly vague, but that clarifying note strongly implies that the intent of the rule is that a team must own the rights to the player first. Signing another team's RFA away doesn't count.
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03-01-2013, 10:54 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Cool Ville
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
I just find it unbelievable that people think a GM would put in an offer sheet on a guy that could possibly have to pass through waivers without knowing the facts about it. It just wouldn't happen.
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This is true, the Flames hockey operations probably have a large slew of lawyers who worked that CBA front and back, they knew exactly what they were doing without a question of a doubt.
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03-01-2013, 10:55 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Zuma
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03-01-2013, 10:55 AM
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#1313
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Well all we can do is wait until it is cleared up. I agree that if Feaster did miss it he should be fired, that would be brutal.
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03-01-2013, 10:55 AM
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#1314
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Cortez
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The Calgary Flames could have paid a higher price than draft picks if the Colorado Avalanche didn't match the offer for restricted free agent forward Ryan O'Reilly - namely, Ryan O'Reilly.
According to the Kontinental Hockey League's website, O'Reilly - who was unsigned until Thursday night - played for Metallurg Magnitogorsk on Jan. 21 and Jan. 23 (written in the game sheets as 'Rayan O Rayli'). And as NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly told TSN on Friday, O'Reilly would have had to clear waivers to join the Flames if he actually played in the KHL after the start of the NHL season on Jan. 19.
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wow
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03-01-2013, 10:56 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Cool Ville
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If true ship Feaster's Keaster back to florida.
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03-01-2013, 10:56 AM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Cortez
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Holy crap...
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03-01-2013, 10:57 AM
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#1317
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by Cortez
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Then Feaster is an idiot. Could we have just not had him play this year and then he would be good next year?
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03-01-2013, 10:57 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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The Flames would have just left him in Europe for the year.
Either way, embarrassing and Feaster needs to be sent packing.
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03-01-2013, 10:58 AM
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#1320
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Cortez
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Oh boy.
Well that's two different media outlets confirming it.
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And as NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly told TSN on Friday, O'Reilly would have had to clear waivers to join the Flames if he actually played in the KHL after the start of the NHL season on Jan. 19.
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Can't wait to hear Feaster's response to this.
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