Annual Trade Iggy thread

[Vinny01]

This team needs assets, Iggy needs a cup. If he comes back at $3.5M for his retirement contract with a cup ring and the Flames have a couple of nice prospects for renting him off it is a win win. @ $3.5M per Iggy is going to be good value.

Iggy is my favorite player of all time though so I hate to see him play for any other team than the Flames. Having said that we need to rebuild and he needs a shot to win the cup. If he leaves and doesn't win I suspect he will not come back to Calgary until he is pushing 40 if he comes back at all.

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

that was Babcock being stubborn. Iginla ended up scoring more goals than any other Canadian in spite of Babcock messing around with Iginla. Nash was the problem and once Babcock figured it out Iginla was never the problem in 2010.

If Iginla doesn't out work the USA in the corner and make the pass to Crosby. Babcock is the one that would be wearing egg on his face. Along with Luongo would have been wearing the goat horns for caving in the 3rd.
Iginla saved Babcocks bacon and turned around 3 of those games with key goals even before the final.

Revisionist history. Pretty sure Babcock knows how to coach a winner.

Also, who did Iginla score all those goals against?

[CaptainCrunch]

There's no question in my mind that Iginla has physically slipped this year, while he was never the fastest skater out there, when he lost all of that muscle a few years back he became an above average skater in terms of burst.

I don't see that burst anymore, and he really seems to be having trouble finding open ice.

The biggest drop in his game though is his board play. He used to be dominant, he used to be able to hold guys back with one arm, now I see him getting pinned out of the play and he's not cycling as much as he used to.

Part of it is age, maybe part of it is that he mentally might be burned out on the Flames experience and he needs a newer or even an easier challenge.

There's no doubt that this fan base isn't as in love with him as he used to be and there's a segment that is turning on him a bit.

Will he bounce out of this, I would think that he would, but I'm afraid that he won't.

This team and Iginla are eying a future that Iginla might not be the guy anymore, the question is can he live with that? I believe Iggy is a pro and he's Flame through and through and thinks that he would be willing to move to the second or third line, but he has to be sure. He also has to be sure that staying with a team that isn't close to a cup is something that he wants to do.

I almost want to see him moved to a team with a good center for him because a guy like Iggy deserves to go out in an epic manner, a roar and not a squeak.

I also believe that if the Flames trade Iggy, that one of two things will happen. He'll win a cup this year and hang up his blades with a mission accomplished sign around his neck.

Or he signs a low dollar free agent short term deal somewhere like Vancouver or Boston or Pittsburgh with the sole intent of winning a cup. either which way we won't see Iggy in a Flames jersey as an active player again.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

This team needs assets, Iggy needs a cup. If he comes back at $3.5M for his retirement contract with a cup ring and the Flames have a couple of nice prospects for renting him off it is a win win. @ $3.5M per Iggy is going to be good value.

Iggy is my favorite player of all time though so I hate to see him play for any other team than the Flames. Having said that we need to rebuild and he needs a shot to win the cup. If he leaves and doesn't win I suspect he will not come back to Calgary until he is pushing 40 if he comes back at all.

Do you really believe that Iggy would re-sign at $ 3.5 million even if he has won the cup? I don't see him signing with the flames for anything under what Doan got, that was 4 years at $5.3 million per.

Flames need to part ways with Iggy until his final year or 2 of play.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Do you really believe that Iggy would re-sign at $ 3.5 million even if he has won the cup? I don't see him signing with the flames for anything under what Doan got, that was 4 years at $5.3 million per.

Flames need to part ways with Iggy until his final year or 2 of play.

I wouldn't sign him to 3.5 a year either at this point. Talk about an overpayment.

[Teroy]

Iginla's net worth is about 18 million dollars. He needs a retirement contract like I need a hole in the head. The only reason to bring him back if he was traded would be sentiment. It's time to start posting things that are a benefit to the team. This is a business, not a retirement home.

[vektor]

I think the problem is people tend to fall back into bad habits really easy when situations remain the same. This team still has it's main components (Iginla, Kiprusoff, Bouw) on contract and Iginla's mind is probably overwhelmed with the past few years.

He desperately needs a change of scenery in my opinion, he's not going to put his body on the line anymore because he's on a bottom feeder team so he's saving his future career by becoming a completely perimeter player. I bet the opposing coaches all tell their teams not to hit Iginla and to let him coast around on the outside because he's only good when he's mad. This ship is sinking fast, Iginla should go to Boston or Chicago if they will take him.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Teroy

Iginla's net worth is about 18 million dollars. He needs a retirement contract like I need a hole in the head. The only reason to bring him back if he was traded would be sentiment. It's time to start posting things that are a benefit to the team. This is a business, not a retirement home.

Out of curiously how do you know that his net worth is $18 million dollars. I would have expected it to be a lot higher then that, hasn't he been making 7 million dollars for 8 years, and then probably several million before that?

[Canada 02]

Iginla's gross income prior to this season was just north of $69M

http://www.hockeyzoneplus.com/search...earchdbdisplay

[Stay Golden]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

There's no question in my mind that Iginla has physically slipped this year, while he was never the fastest skater out there, when he lost all of that muscle a few years back he became an above average skater in terms of burst.

I don't see that burst anymore, and he really seems to be having trouble finding open ice.

The biggest drop in his game though is his board play. He used to be dominant, he used to be able to hold guys back with one arm, now I see him getting pinned out of the play and he's not cycling as much as he used to.

Part of it is age, maybe part of it is that he mentally might be burned out on the Flames experience and he needs a newer or even an easier challenge.

There's no doubt that this fan base isn't as in love with him as he used to be and there's a segment that is turning on him a bit.

Will he bounce out of this, I would think that he would, but I'm afraid that he won't.

This team and Iginla are eying a future that Iginla might not be the guy anymore, the question is can he live with that? I believe Iggy is a pro and he's Flame through and through and thinks that he would be willing to move to the second or third line, but he has to be sure. He also has to be sure that staying with a team that isn't close to a cup is something that he wants to do.

I almost want to see him moved to a team with a good center for him because a guy like Iggy deserves to go out in an epic manner, a roar and not a squeak.

I also believe that if the Flames trade Iggy, that one of two things will happen. He'll win a cup this year and hang up his blades with a mission accomplished sign around his neck.

Or he signs a low dollar free agent short term deal somewhere like Vancouver or Boston or Pittsburgh with the sole intent of winning a cup. either which way we won't see Iggy in a Flames jersey as an active player again.

^
this is a a great post!

The other thing is it would be difficult for Iginla to accept getting bumped to the 2nd or 3rd unit permanently with the Flames as the next few seasons would go on. He would see it as a demotion where as i do not feel Iginla would see it that way on a Cup contending team.

Also a few other CP posts reffered to Iginla's value going down with the team being not that good. Not true, smart GM's don't look at that way they look at as I know if i put Iginla in my mix he will add tremendous talent and depth to my Cup seeking team not he lack of production he is having with the Flames.
GM's that are in the playoff mix know what Iginla will add to their already strong teams.
If the word gets out for real that the Flames are finally willing to deal Iginla it will be the center piece of conversation for every GM in that mix how and what can we do to get him.

[Teroy]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Out of curiously how do you know that his net worth is $18 million dollars. I would have expected it to be a lot higher then that, hasn't he been making 7 million dollars for 8 years, and then probably several million before that?

Check it out here:

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/ric...nla-net-worth/

[Gunkle]

Lackluster starts, consistently no passion....everything else has changed...but... Iginla.
The Flames are a perennial slow starter because Jarome is a slow starter. In years past, he had enough strength, skill and jam to win fans back over because he could carry the load mid, and late season. For the past three seasons...we have seen this is not the case.
Bow has 3 more goals that Iggy, crap Backlund has two more goals...doesn't get the playing time that Iggy gets, and has been injured for two weeks. I am saying Backlund....not Getzlaf, or Toews.

The truth is Jarome is ALREADY GONE. Trading him now is a necessity. Dude is mailing everything but his cheque.

I wish management to know....that it's okay to let him go, the Flames will go on, and we will always love Jarome's service. However, those things that endeared us to him, are not really present anymore.

He seems like a great guy...but seems disinterested. Time to change things up for #12, and for the Flames.

[Sakari]

If Iginla wants to leave Calgary, he undoubtedly will get that wish. If he doesn't request a trade.. we'll lose him to free agency for nothing. Feaster will NOT trade Iginla without him asking for it. I know that for sure. And I wouldn't be so sure he doesn't resign with Calgary, honestly, I think he's pretty dedicated to this franchise.

[Heavy Jack]

Go to Pittsburgh Iginla. Let us get Maatta/1st/Bennett... one can dream.

Neal - Crosby - Iginla or
Neal - Malkin - Iginla or
Kunitz - Crosby - Iginla

That has all kinds of appeal to it if your Pittsburgh right now, they might get a cup if they get Iginla who would most likely flourish in a role where he's not expected to be leaned on to be THE guy for the team. It should come a cost I think, Iggy is a premiere goal scorer and still is a 30 goal guy annually for over a decade and as early as last year. Pitt could get hurt by giving up that kind of a package but they have enough high-end piece's to turn a return of Iginla into a cup.

[nik-]

It's not even like you could pay Iginla less and drop him down a line or two. There's nothing to his game beside offence at this point. People make the Yzerman comparison often, but other than formerly being "the man" there is nothing alike in the two situations.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Go to Pittsburgh Iginla. Let us get Maatta/1st/Bennett... one can dream.

Neal - Crosby - Iginla or
Neal - Malkin - Iginla or
Kunitz - Crosby - Iginla

That has all kinds of appeal to it if your Pittsburgh right now, they might get a cup if they get Iginla who would most likely flourish in a role where he's not expected to be leaned on to be THE guy for the team. It should come a cost I think, Iggy is a premiere goal scorer and still is a 30 goal guy annually for over a decade and as early as last year. Pitt could get hurt by giving up that kind of a package but they have enough high-end piece's to turn a return of Iginla into a cup.

I'd take Depres and the first and drop the second prospect.

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by nik-

It's not even like you could pay Iginla less and drop him down a line or two. There's nothing to his game beside offence at this point. People make the Yzerman comparison often, but other than formerly being "the man" there is nothing alike in the two situations.

Yeah can't see that comparison, he'd be more like Shanny if you wanted to compare him to a player from that team/era. I see a guy like Toews projecting into a Yzerman type near the end of his career if things continue to go his way. They could snag a cup this year again.

What would you want from Chi-town if they came calling for Iggy?

[Stay Golden]

Originally Posted by Sakari

If Iginla wants to leave Calgary, he undoubtedly will get that wish. If he doesn't request a trade.. we'll lose him to free agency for nothing. Feaster will NOT trade Iginla without him asking for it. I know that for sure. And I wouldn't be so sure he doesn't resign with Calgary, honestly, I think he's pretty dedicated to this franchise.

Feaster is not the decision maker Murray Edwards and Ken King are. They need to man up address this situation and quit puting the decision on Iginla's shoulders. Whether that be out of respect for Iginla or they don't want the responsibility of how it will turn out.
Instead of maintaning an attitude of apathy, they need to step up and take control instead just being along for the ride and enjoying the scenery.

[Matty81]

Originally Posted by nik-

I'd take Depres and the first and drop the second prospect.

Wonder who the Flames scouting dpt likes. Personally I'd shoot for Pouliot over either of Depres or Maata but I haven't seen Maata play a lot.

[nik-]

I'm pretty sure Iginla signs elsewhere this offseason. No one will blame him, he doesn't have much time here and we're nowhere close.

Edit: I wonder if Iginla even knows that his legacy wouldn't be ruined by asking for a trade. The vast majority of the fans would accept the reasons. Some would be upset, but it really has to be most that would totally be behind him.