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[calgARI]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

Why is Iggy on a line with Blair Jones?

Because Blair Jones is one of three centers currently playing and has the second most NHL experience of those three?

Remember when people were up in arms about the suggestion of Gomez coming? Flames were very thin up the middle to begin with but this has gotten pretty crazy.

Stajan, Cervenka, Jones.

[Miniac]

Originally Posted by 1_Flames_Fan

So Macdonald starts next game eh guys?

Likely. If not we will see him play Sunday or Monday in the back to back games.

[Tinordi]

Players need to get pumped up again, queue up Cotton Eye Joe Saddledome music guy!

[FlamesAddiction]

I do wonder if it's a case of Irving just needing more experience to get used to the difficulty gradient or if he is as flawed as he looks.

But he needs to be better for sure. Kiprusoff wasn't looking great early in the season either though. If this team had even close to the level of goaltending it has in the previous 5 seasons, I would bet that they would be a couple of games above 0.500 at least.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by calgARI

How about making any saves on any remotely challenging shots? He hasn't made one big stop. One big save and simply making routine saves and this is a 6-2 game.

Maybe you should have watched the start of the game

[dustyanddaflames]

Anyone else feel that Irving's over-aggressiveness in the shootout against Minnesota, has kind of made him a wee tenative in the net tonight? Has been on the goal line all night

[kirant]

Originally Posted by calgARI

Sure he can be blamed. Guy has been pasted to the goal line the whole night.

Within the realm of that play, it's tough to expect him to be anywhere else. I've noticed he's a little timid tonight compared to his game against the Wild, but that's why I started with "there". The game as a whole is a different matter than that singular play.

I really don't know what people expected of him there. Quick and Kiprusoff might have pulled a magic save because they're reflex goalies who seem to have puck ESP and could be fast enough to turn and make a quick move. I can't imagine most goaltenders making any good save attempt though. Perfect pass and a good shot.

[Anduril]

Bleh. Weak shot by Cervenka. He's got to start putting some more in with all these chances.

[calgARI]

Shocked that Tanguay passed

[djsFlames]

Wiling to defend Irving to the ends of the earth eh...

So when does it ever start being a little bit 'his fault'?

Previous poster hit it right on. He sits back so far in the net, regardless of where the shot is coming from. He makes it a lot harder on himself doing that.

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by calgARI

How about making any saves on any remotely challenging shots? He hasn't made one big stop. One big save and simply making routine saves and this is a 6-2 game.

I urge you to go back and watch his goal saving stop in the first 5 minutes of the game that could have made this a very different looking game. Still is the best save of the game

[Henry Fool]

Jagr has a giant butt.

[Bertuzzied]

Ughly shot by Cevenka. I hope it doesn't cost us.

[calgARI]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Maybe you should have watched the start of the game

Maybe you should have watched the whole game

[kirant]

Originally Posted by dustyanddaflames

Anyone else feel that Irving's over-aggressiveness in the shootout against Minnesota, has kind of made him a wee tenative in the net tonight? Has been on the goal line all night

I see that. A goaltender's willingness to charge out of net generally an indicator of their confidence. Irving seems a bit deflated after getting shot up in the shootout by NHL veterans.

This is mostly an experience thing. A 24 year old goalie isn't experienced and will take those sorts of experiences worse than a 30 year old. Plus, we're pretty spoiled by Kiprusoff being the same player pretty much every game for many years, only falling apart in this recently.

[Dime_On_Flames]

Originally Posted by calgARI

Shocked that Tanguay passed

Sarcasm makes me lol

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by DropIt

I urge you to go back and watch his goal saving stop in the first 5 minutes of the game that could have made this a very different looking game. Still is the best save of the game

I didn't watch it but on the radio Mike Rogers said he was out of position and had to make an incredible save because of it.

Also the peewee level type goal he let in on Morrow's 2nd goal nullifies that.

[StrykerSteve]

Originally Posted by calgARI

Shocked that Tanguay passed

I think Cervenka was too. I certainly expected Tanguay to shoot that one.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by kirant

I see that. A goaltender's willingness to charge out of net generally an indicator of their confidence. Irving seems a bit deflated after getting shot up in the shootout by NHL veterans.

This is mostly an experience thing. A 24 year old goalie isn't experienced and will take those sorts of experiences worse than a 30 year old. Plus, we're pretty spoiled by Kiprusoff being the same player pretty much every game for many years, only falling apart in this recently.

Irving has been sitting deep in the net every game so far he has played this season.

[Stay Golden]

Originally Posted by Anduril

Bleh. Weak shot by Cervenka. He's got to start putting some more in with all these chances.

he did score tonight