02-03-2013, 08:37 AM
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Critiquing Bob Harley's 4-on-3 powerplay
While I'm generally like what Bob Hartley's been doing so far, I have to say I didn't like the system the Flames used on last night's 4-on-3 powerplay.
Here's why:
The Flames set up in in a diamond in front of the net. Essentially this functions as a 3-man umbrella with a screener in front of the goalie. While the passing lanes between the point man and the outside players in the umbrella are open the shooting lanes these three players had can be (and were) permanently blocked by the three defenders. There's no available passing lane to the guy in front of the goalie because those passing lanes and the shooting lanes are the same.
Here's what I'd suggest instead:
Instead of a diamond, how about a rectangle? Two point men high, and fairly close together, a forward on either side of the net slightly wider. Four disctinct shooting lanes that can't all be covered. Work the numerical advantage.
Thoughts?
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02-03-2013, 08:41 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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How often would this scenario happen. I rather they just screen the goalie and have Wideman and Babchuk blast away from the point hoping to the get the rebound.
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02-03-2013, 08:45 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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I doubt Hartley has had much time to think about our 4-on-3 powerplay so far. I would however say that he had the right guys on it.
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02-03-2013, 08:46 AM
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I think the rectangle is what Sutter did. No?
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02-03-2013, 08:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Young One
I think the rectangle is what Sutter did. No?
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Yup. NO ONE in front of the net so the goalie sees every shot like it's practice.
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02-03-2013, 09:06 AM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
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Bob Hartley was not on the ice executing the power play.
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02-03-2013, 09:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by edn88
Bob Hartley was not on the ice executing the power play.
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I would have to go with this.
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02-03-2013, 09:28 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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You're critiquing a PP that very nearly scored to end the game, and probably was barely touched upon so far this season?
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02-03-2013, 09:32 AM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Is Hartley even responsible for the PP? For some reason i was under the impression that was a responsibility of Gelinas.
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02-03-2013, 12:40 PM
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I am assuming that the 4 on 3 is likely not practiced a lot yet.
Personally I'd rather see them run an oval - sometimes ya gotta dare to be different
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02-03-2013, 12:48 PM
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It looked a lot like the 4-on-3 PP of last year. I suspect Hartley's work on it has been minimal given how different the 5-on-4 PP looks when it's set up.
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02-03-2013, 12:51 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Calgary
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Im pretty sure Gelinas is the Powerplay guy.
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02-03-2013, 12:53 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Stern Nation
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The powerplay in general has been a positive...this is the first time in years that it has been able to get across the blueline and set up with some form of regularity.
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02-03-2013, 12:54 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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So are we gonna be making a thread about what/ who we hate every time the flames lose? like really? wow...
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02-03-2013, 01:01 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Chicago was tired, and collapsing down low all game, PP or ES.
Having just two Flames on the outside and just two down low wouldn't have been enough IMO. Given that Emery was making a lot of first saves, the more bodies the Flames had lower, the better, to be able to bang in rebounds and/or have an extra set of sticks and skates to deflect off of (as Wideman's goal was clear proof of).
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02-03-2013, 01:38 PM
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The strategy used is irrelevant, IMO. Any strategy can work or fail, and none are better than any of the others (talking about teh strategies at the NHL level).
The issue - and the key to success - is execution. For me, everything comes down to movement and causing the D to get out of position. The Flames are, far too often, stationary on the PP.
The diamond would work fine if they moved around and tried to create 2 on 1 situations.
While I am ranting about the PP, I also think the Flames don't generate enough speed in the neutral zone. Yes, there are times when it's good to slow things down, but the Flames ALWAYS slow it down. They need to put more pressure on the defense with a) speed, and b) more movement in the offensive zone
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02-03-2013, 01:48 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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^ The Flames haven't had a guy that could properly gain the zone, speed or not, powerplay or ES, since the sweet hands of Bertuzzi left.
Jokinen was ok at it, as he used pure speed, but it always looked a bit out of control.
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02-03-2013, 02:01 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner
How about a rhombus?

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that's funny
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