Flames to announce plans to announce arena plans in the... future...

[polak]

No. More. Cowboy. Crap.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire

I don't know, I'd still like them to stick with the saddle shape building, but more much more modern.

It's distinctly Western, which is a huge part of the Calgary culture. I say embrace it. Calgarians shouldn't try and act like their New Yorkers.

What would say Calgary is now a major hub in western Canada more than sticking with the cowboy culture, but updating the building to look modern?

Yah, but that shape causes problems, and I'm all for embracing our Western heritage, but I don't look at the Dome and think "Saddle", except for the fact it's in the name.

[Calgary4LIfe]

I just hope whatever they build is MAGNIFICENT!

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by polak

No. More. Cowboy. Crap.

You. Should. Likely. Move. Cowboy. Crap. Is. Part. Of. This. Cities. Culture. And. Heritage. You. Aren't. Going. To. Escape. It. If. You. Stay. Here.

[polak]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

You. Should. Likely. Move. Cowboy. Crap. Is. Part. Of. This. Cities. Culture. And. Heritage. You. Aren't. Going. To. Escape. It. If. You. Stay. Here.

Yeah, cause we haven't milked it enough

Maybe we can build an arena in the shape of John Wayne and the area near his junk can be called the "Ranchmans & Country 105 Saloon".

[rohara66]

Has it been announced or released who the Architect is?

[TurnedTheCorner]

Originally Posted by table 5

sounds like a very nice show home.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

You. Should. Likely. Move. Cowboy. Crap. Is. Part. Of. This. Cities. Culture. And. Heritage. You. Aren't. Going. To. Escape. It. If. You. Stay. Here.

The Victorian era was part of London's heritage and you don't see them going to that well over and over. This city has more going for it, we're not Tombstone Arizona.

[VictoryJuice]

dasboot

[JayP]

Originally Posted by valo403

Well you obviously understand that times and circumstances change, so it's odd that you think the current situation couldn't possibly do the same.

When did I say it wouldn't?

To me it's pretty evident that the Flames asking for public money for a new arena when the dollar is doing poorly and the team is struggling to compete financially is a very different scenario than today. In that case, the threat of the team leaving was actual very real and using public money to keep the team in this city holds a lot of value.

[North East Goon]

Going to be tough to top that Edmonton design, it really is pretty unique.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by nik-

The Victorian era was part of London's heritage and you don't see them going to that well over and over. This city has more going for it, we're not Tombstone Arizona.

Explain to me how this city goes to the well with it over and over? Because one rink is named the Saddle Dome.

And for the record, London does nothing but MILK the Monarchy left right and centre. Absolutely that city have more going for it, but they embrace their heritage and draw it creates. Calgary should do the same with the feature of this city that makes it different than every other city in this country.

Believe me I'm not advocationg for everything to be Western themed, but It's not like every second thing in this city is Cowboy this and Ranchhand that. Clearly you see an over index of that on the Stampede grounds.........but what do you expect. And outside of the name of the Dome, what exactly is "Cowboy" about the Saddledome? I guess that one lounge is called the Saddleroom, and they have 2 western nights a year?

[polak]

If they did do a bigger copy if the Velodrome in London then I'd be happy.

No stupid red brick.
No stupid sandstone.
No dumb western themed name.
No horse statues.
No "accountant architecture".

There's a reason why the term "stampitecture" isn't a compliment.

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

If Calgary moves away from their Western heritage, they risk becoming just another bland vague city with little to no culture.

Let's face it, it's Calgary identity whether Calgarians like it or not.

Vancouver is an artsy city. Toronto is a business city. Montreal is sort of an old world artsy city. Edmonton is... a toilet.

I get the problems with the Saddledome's roof, but it's just so distinctly Southern Alberta. As a person who has been to Calgary once in my life, I love it.

[polak]

We have the stampede.

Aslong as that keeps going, that is more then enough "cowboy" culture for this city to maintain it's label as a distinctly redneck town.

Nice glass and materials please. PLEASE.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Boniman

Forgive me if I'm wrong but I think one of the main reasons Calgary loses out to Edmonton for many large concerts is the Saddledome roof structure cannot support the rigging due to its shape. A future building probably should steer away from that. Like I said I don't know this for a fact.

I think it's more the fact that the new scoreboard is so large that it limits the types of shows that can fit now. There's only 32 feet of clearance under the scoreboard: http://www.scotiabanksaddledome.com/...dledome/?ID=44

That's less than the Enmax Centre in Lethbridge, which has a maximum trim height under the scoreboard of 36'9", in a significantly smaller building: http://www.enmaxcentre.ca/about-the-...il.asp?SubID=2

The older smaller scoreboards could be lifted up into the catwalk to give the full 89 feet of clearance for the whole arena floor.

Now, any show that has a centre stage set-up can't play the Saddledome.


Major tours bypassing Calgary didn't really become a problem until the new scoreboard was installed a few years ago.

[868904]

Originally Posted by polak

No. More. Cowboy. Crap.

I think there should be more cowboy crap. Change the name from Flames to Cowboys!!

Flames makes no sense anyways.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by polak

We have the stampede.

Aslong as that keeps going, that is more then enough "cowboy" culture for this city to maintain it's label as a distinctly redneck town.

Nice glass and materials please. PLEASE.

Two very distinct entities, but I can see your concern if you are un-able to distinguish between the two.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

Explain to me how this city goes to the well with it over and over? Because one rink is named the Saddle Dome.

And for the record, London does nothing but MILK the Monarchy left right and centre. Absolutely that city have more going for it, but they embrace their heritage and draw it creates. Calgary should do the same with the feature of this city that makes it different than every other city in this country.

Believe me I'm not advocationg for everything to be Western themed, but It's not like every second thing in this city is Cowboy this and Ranchhand that. Clearly you see an over index of that on the Stampede grounds.........but what do you expect. And outside of the name of the Dome, what exactly is "Cowboy" about the Saddledome? I guess that one lounge is called the Saddleroom, and they have 2 western nights a year?

As discussed earlier, the Saddledome isn't what people are talkign about with the western theme, it's the rest of the Stampitecture that has popped up around the city. I agree that more faux-historic buildings would be a terrible idea. It worked in Baltimore with Camden Yards and then everyone jumped on board, only to realize that for the most part it winds up looking pretty average.

As for London, I don't believe any of the many venues built for the Olympics were Victorian in style, as that would have been ridiculous. London milks it's actual history, it doesn't build new buildings and pretend they're historic.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire

If Calgary moves away from their Western heritage, they risk becoming just another bland vague city with little to no culture.

Let's face it, it's Calgary identity whether Calgarians like it or not.

Vancouver is an artsy city. Toronto is a business city. Montreal is sort of an old world artsy city. Edmonton is... a toilet.

I get the problems with the Saddledome's roof, but it's just so distinctly Southern Alberta. As a person who has been to Calgary once in my life, I love it.

If this thread has shown me anything, it's that this particular roof shape isn't actually disctinclty Calgary at all. Apparently it's been used many times, and well before the Saddledome too. It's a cool building, but let's not get carried away with it being a defining or irreplaceable feature.