The Ongoing Dog Attack Mega-Thread

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Sliver

An owner that lets their dog urinate anywhere other than their own back yard while within the city is irresponsible. .

haha, animals pee all the time everywhere dude, inside the city limits constantly. It's pee.

"rational"

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

So just for equal application, I expect you to only piss in your house. Gotta pee at work? Too bad, piss yourself.

I'm going to assume you just suck at being funny and don't expect an actual response to this post.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

haha, animals pee all the time everywhere dude, inside the city limits constantly. It's pee.

"rational"

Yeah, I know. And it's gross. Wouldn't you find it gross if I peed on your lawn? I bet you'd call the cops.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Yeah, I know. And it's gross. Wouldn't you find it gross if I peed on your lawn? I bet you'd call the cops.

Ah I see, now you're comparing animals to humans!

"rational"

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by Sliver

I'm going to assume you just suck at being funny and don't expect an actual response to this post.

I just assume this entire thread is one gigantic troll job, and really is only being responded to by people who literally cannot believe how ####ing bat#### you are about this whole thing. Were you raped or molested by dogs when you were younger? I mean Jesus Christ this thread needs to die already. If you could you would personally execute every dog alive, we get it yo.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Yeah, I know. And it's gross. Wouldn't you find it gross if I peed on your lawn? I bet you'd call the cops.

What is you position on:

• cat pee
• mice pee
• coyote pee
• deer pee
• rabbit pee
• emergancy potty training pee
• late night behind the dumpster pee
• police horse pee
• fish pee (ever swim in a lake)

[AFireInside]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Yeah, I know. And it's gross. Wouldn't you find it gross if I peed on your lawn? I bet you'd call the cops.

I'd call the cops because you were exposing yourself and being a creep since peeing on peoples lawns is not the norm for human beings.

[SeoulFire]

Originally Posted by J-bo09

What world do you guys live in where dog owners are irresponsible at 50% level? Not saying they are perfect, but sounds like an aggressive number which the numbers do not really support. I frequent a number of off-leash areas and have had maybe two incidents with dog on dog in 15 years (more a smaller dog getting frightened by a big dog, then a dog being aggressive) and never an outright attack.

There is only one area that a dog should be off-leash and that is a designated park (I've even admit in another dog walking thread I was a little misguided about dogs being off-leash) and never have I walked around where a dog was just running up and around communites, unless it escaped from the yard or something.

That is in 3 communities of Bridlewood, Varsity and Mission.

I see dogs offleash in many parks that are not designated offleash - it is really not that uncommon of a sight. I cannot comment on offleash parks as I have owned a dog in years as I do not feel I have the available time/schedule to be a responsible owner.

An easy way to gauge (rightly or wrongly) how well a dog is trained is to simply look at how they behave while on a leash. If a dog constantly pulls on the leash I think it is reasonable to assume that the owner has failed, neglected or ignored other areas of training as well. I stand by my statement that most owners are too lazy to do it right (if at all).

[Old Yeller]

My dog pees on peoples lawns so I cut his balls off.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Old Yeller

My dog pees on peoples lawns so I cut his balls off.

pssst it comes out his penis not his balls.

[Old Yeller]

Oh ####.. I'm so sorry boy.

[MrMastodonFarm]

I can't believe he just compared whipping out his dick in public to an animal peeing on a lawn.

[Kybosh]

Hahahahaha. Man oh man.

Fact: Calgary has seen a dramatic decrease in dog related incidents despite doubling in population over 25 years. The data has already been posted several times in this thread.
Fact: Calgary has 149 designated off leash areas and most of these are shared use spaces. 1,250 hectares of dog friendly areas, which is more than any other municipality in North America (this only makes up 17% of the total park space in the city before anyone whines about it). That's a lot of space for dogs and it mostly operates harmoniously.
Fact: Walking around the streets of Calgary isn't like some sort of thunderdome for dogs. Give me a break.

So, pretty much if I take my dog anywhere other than my house I'm an irresponsible owner? Give me a ####ing break.

People are acting like it's a dog attack epidemic, yet the numbers do not agree with that in the slightest. It suggests the complete opposite.

[Minnie]

Sliver must be in a constant state of dehydration.

[Halfcreek]

So - question for the non-dog-liker types.

Hypothetical situation, as I don't even live in the city, but let's assume I have a new dog who needs to be trained on recall. I work on it in my yard, but we eventually have to move past that. I have no vehicle so can't take her to an abandonded field somewhere and an off-leash park isn't a good idea, as recall is the problem - we need an area with fewer distractions to start with.
So - I find a green-space area that has a couple picnic tables, open soccer field, but no playground equipment. No one is around. I leave the leash on, but drop it, to work on recall. As soon as I see someone coming, I call the dog back and get her to me as quickly as possible, so she doesn't bother anyone. If they are staying to use the park - she remains on leash with me holding it from there on-in.

I know I am still breaking the by-laws - but that's a risk I've decided to take in order to work on my dogs training. While I accept that I could be ticketed and would have no problem paying the ticket - would you call me an irresponsible dog owner?

[Old Yeller]

I like that MMF did the leg work, it's funny reading this:

Originally Posted by Sliver

I'm not going to bump it when new dog attacks occur as we will just get into circular arguments again.

Originally Posted by Sliver

Ugh, I hate having to bump this thread. Another dog attack

The cirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrcle of liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiife

[RichKlit]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Depends on your definition of irresponsible. A dog barking more than once is irresponsible to me, but I'd guess you guys find barking perfectly acceptable in your neighbourhoods.

A dog coming up to me and my family is something I would consider rude on the part of the owner (leashed or not, I don't want a dog touching me), but I'd guess you wouldn't find that irresponsible, either.

An owner that lets their dog take a crunch on the ground and doesn't pick it up is irresponsible.

An owner that lets their dog urinate anywhere other than their own back yard while within the city is irresponsible.

Basically, I think it would be impossible for us to agree about what we find irresponsible. IMO, every dog owner is irresponsible as they would be guilty of probably all of the above (I think there would be some that would keep their dog away from my family, however, which is always appreciated).

Whats irresponsible is using terminology like murderer and trying to pass this thread off as legitimate. Most rational people understand that dog attacks are an enormously small problem in relation to the size and issues of this and every other city.

[Jbo]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Depends on your definition of irresponsible. A dog barking more than once is irresponsible to me, but I'd guess you guys find barking perfectly acceptable in your neighbourhoods. I actually find the construction in my neighbourhood to be much less acceptable. I can deal with the odd dog bark, but they are putting up a building and it goes from 7AM to 9PM. I can't do much cause I guess shelter for people take precedence over my quiet time

I also hear coyotes, but that is a seperate issue.

A dog coming up to me and my family is something I would consider rude on the part of the owner (leashed or not, I don't want a dog touching me), but I'd guess you wouldn't find that irresponsible, either.

If we are walking by, and I have my dog leeshed and controled, I do not find that irresponsible. If I am in a off-leash area, then there is no issue.

An owner that lets their dog take a crunch on the ground and doesn't pick it up is irresponsible. Agree.

An owner that lets their dog urinate anywhere other than their own back yard while within the city is irresponsible. As others have said, people, animals, everything pees everywhere. Not sure why you would care about this. Should we designate every animal in Calgary to pee in one spot.

Basically, I think it would be impossible for us to agree about what we find irresponsible. IMO, every dog owner is irresponsible as they would be guilty of probably all of the above (I think there would be some that would keep their dog away from my family, however, which is always appreciated).

Honestly Sliver, I believe you truly believe what you are writing, but take a step back and ask yourself if you are WAY over the top here.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Halfcreek

So - question for the non-dog-liker types.

Hypothetical situation, as I don't even live in the city, but let's assume I have a new dog who needs to be trained on recall. I work on it in my yard, but we eventually have to move past that. I have no vehicle so can't take her to an abandonded field somewhere and an off-leash park isn't a good idea, as recall is the problem - we need an area with fewer distractions to start with.
So - I find a green-space area that has a couple picnic tables, open soccer field, but no playground equipment. No one is around. I leave the leash on, but drop it, to work on recall. As soon as I see someone coming, I call the dog back and get her to me as quickly as possible, so she doesn't bother anyone. If they are staying to use the park - she remains on leash with me holding it from there on-in.

I know I am still breaking the by-laws - but that's a risk I've decided to take in order to work on my dogs training. While I accept that I could be ticketed and would have no problem paying the ticket - would you call me an irresponsible dog owner?

Honestly, your actions in your scenario sound reasonable to me.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by J-bo09

Honestly Sliver, I believe you truly believe what you are writing, but take a step back and ask yourself if you are WAY over the top here.

I know it's over the top from your perspective, but it's my opinion. Can you at least throw me a bone and say "yeah, piss and crap are kind of gross." I mean, they are. Why am I a freak for not wanting them where I play with my kids?