Where in the world is Kristopher Cook?

[killer_carlson]

Or at an end of life AIDS hospice

[Reaper]

Funny, I was hoping he'd get raped to death with a cracked aluminum softball bat.

(No, I don't advocate rape. I'm just summing up the over the top outrage of this thread)

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Reaper

Funny, I was hoping he'd get raped to death with a cracked aluminum softball bat.

(No, I don't advocate rape. I'm just summing up the over the top outrage of this thread)

I love CP's collective over the top reactions to anyone who does anything wrong. I'm not saying there aren't bad guys out there, and this guy certainly did something terrible. But at the end of the day, the guy basically convinced a bunch of friends to donate money to him, using a fake sickness.

Yes, it's a slap in the face to people who've battled cancer or people who have lost loved ones to cancer, but the guy doesn't deserve jailhouse beatings, or any other revenge fantasy. He deserves the agreed upon sentence for the crime he commited.

[chemgear]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...sentenced.html

Kristopher Cook, 29, has been sentenced to six months in jail and two years of probation after pretending he had cancer in order to get money from friends.

[Ducay]

I get its morally horrid and despicable, but I feel like they're either trying to make a HUGE example of him, or there is more to the story.

Repays the $7,500, plus 6 months in jail. There have been violent criminals and people who've committed horrific crimes against children who've served less time.

Canadian Judicial System Wheel of Discipline!!

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by fotze

Ya, I didn't even know this was a criminal thing.

Fraud is no light-hearted matter. This is so morally despicable, and the case is rather high profile in Calgary, that this sends absolutely the right message to wankers who may try and pull the same stunt.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Ducay

I get its morally horrid and despicable, but I feel like they're either trying to make a HUGE example of him, or there is more to the story.

Repays the $7,500, plus 6 months in jail. There have been violent criminals and people who've committed horrific crimes against children who've served less time.

Canadian Judicial System Wheel of Discipline!!

With the what seems like an uptick in fraud based crimes where people are using charities and illness and other nefarious means to steal money then you not only have to look at the punishment but the possibility of deterrence.

They couldn't let this thief go free with a slap on the wrist and levying a fine that he will probably never repay.

A prison term of 6 months is more then appropriate.

[AFireInside]

Originally Posted by Ducay

I get its morally horrid and despicable, but I feel like they're either trying to make a HUGE example of him, or there is more to the story.

Repays the $7,500, plus 6 months in jail. There have been violent criminals and people who've committed horrific crimes against children who've served less time.

Canadian Judicial System Wheel of Discipline!!

I agree, that this seems a little stiff, people who have done way worse have gotten off with way less.

Don't get me wrong, what he did was disgusting but it seems a little harsh.

[FlamesAddiction]

Using someone as the occasional "example" is a useful tool in our justice system. It doesn't say anywhere that everyone should get the same sentences. If everyone received the same maximum sentence, then the jails would fill up fast. If no one did, then you lose the deterrence factor.

It's important for people to know the consequences can be harsh. It doesn't mean they need to be every time though.

This guy thought that he was Cook-ing up the ultimate scam. It turns out, his idea was just half-baked.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

This guy thought that he was Cook-ing up the ultimate scam. It turns out, his idea was just half-baked.

Could be he is just mentally ill.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/ca...060/story.html

Cook was expelled from school for absenteeism in Grade 10, has attention deficit disorder and only limited job experience.

A pre-sentence report said Cook has a personality disorder with anti-social traits and rated his risk of committing another fraud as "moderate to high."

[First Lady]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Using someone as the occasional "example" is a useful tool in our justice system. It doesn't say anywhere that everyone should get the same sentences. If everyone received the same maximum sentence, then the jails would fill up fast. If no one did, then you lose the deterrence factor.

It's important for people to know the consequences can be harsh. It doesn't mean they need to be every time though.

This guy thought that he was Cook-ing up the ultimate scam. It turns out, his idea was just half-baked.

Agreed.

We entrust the judges to make educated and sound (hopefully) decisions. Every case is different and the factors must be weighed as to what is appropriate.

There are things out of their hands though. For example those convicted getting double and triple credit for time served while going to trail. Doubtful he will spend the full 6 months in a real prison.

[Ducay]

Originally Posted by First Lady

There are things out of their hands though. For example those convicted getting double and triple credit for time served while going to trail. Doubtful he will spend the full 6 months in a real prison.

The article clearly states he has 68 days left, given he's been locked up since arrest months ago.

Canada doesn't give 2x credit for time served. Only in rare cases can the judge grant 1.5x credit, but for everyone, its a flat 1:1 credit for time served now.

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by Ducay

I get its morally horrid and despicable, but I feel like they're either trying to make a HUGE example of him, or there is more to the story.

Repays the $7,500, plus 6 months in jail. There have been violent criminals and people who've committed horrific crimes against children who've served less time.

Canadian Judicial System Wheel of Discipline!!

Example?

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

This guy thought that he was Cook-ing up the ultimate scam. It turns out, his idea was just half-baked.

Booooooooo!!!

[gargamel]

Originally Posted by Ducay

I get its morally horrid and despicable, but I feel like they're either trying to make a HUGE example of him, or there is more to the story.

Cancer is personal for just about everyone, and that includes people in the justice system. I'd guess that his punishment would have been less severe if he'd claimed that he needed money because he was dying of lupus, but that's the risk he took when he based a scam on something that's so emotionally charged.

[First Lady]

Originally Posted by Ducay

The article clearly states he has 68 days left, given he's been locked up since arrest months ago.

Canada doesn't give 2x credit for time served. Only in rare cases can the judge grant 1.5x credit, but for everyone, its a flat 1:1 credit for time served now.

You better notify CTV then and have them correct their piece on this.

On Thursday, Cook was sentenced to six months in jail and two years probation.
With credit for time served, Cook will spend the next two months in jail.

Read more: http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/fundraisin...#ixzz2HgqYkKxU

[Bertuzzied]

6 months is a pretty big joke of a sentence. Pays to be a criminal in Canada. Look at those Cdn fraudsters vs US fraudsters. Madoff gets like 200 years in jail and Earl Jones gets 11.

Want to be a criminal? Come to Canada!

[gargamel]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

6 months is a pretty big joke of a sentence. Pays to be a criminal in Canada. Look at those Cdn fraudsters vs US fraudsters. Madoff gets like 200 years in jail and Earl Jones gets 11.

Want to be a criminal? Come to Canada!

Madoff scammed people out of $64.8 billion dollars. Cook scammed people out of $7,500. Per dollar, based on Madoff's 150 year sentence, Cook should have spent 54 seconds in jail.

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by First Lady

You better notify CTV then and have them correct their piece on this.

Correct what? He was arrested Sept. 15 and has been in jail since IIRC. He was sentenced to six months so he will serve another two which will add up to six.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by gargamel

Madoff scammed people out of $64.8 billion dollars. Cook scammed people out of $7,500. Per dollar, based on Madoff's 150 year sentence, Cook should have spent 54 seconds in jail.

i was comparing Madoff to Earl Jones.

Besides if a Canadian scammed $65 billion dollars what would their sentence be? 11 years. hahaha. it's not even close.

Cook deserves at least 2 years in jail.