Not really sure how you can say that's deliberate.
Maybe the bit where he sticks his arm out to play the ball ...
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he pulls it away after its hit. If his intention was to handle it then he wouldn't pull it away like that.
No. If his intention wasn't to handle it he ..... wouldn't have handled it. He makes zero effort to pull his arm back, instead opting to wrist the ball down.
You're getting close to John Barnes who just came out with this apologist BS gem.
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"No-one accused Henry of cheating against the ROI."
What next? He doesn't dive?
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It's amazing how all these unfortunate, "accidental" things always happen to poor, racist Luiz Suarez.
The little scumbag just can't ever catch a break.
Accidentally trips over thin air and dives to the ground, accidentally kicks people in the backs of their legs, accidentally hands the ball into the net, accidentally calls players racist names.
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No. If his intention wasn't to handle it he ..... wouldn't have handled it. n
So I assume you think all handballs are intentional and the players are cheaters then? That's ridiculous. Sometimes the ball gets handled, it's part of the game. If the ref does his job correctly then we aren't having this conversation.
And we are talking about this isolated incident, not about diving. I have always been completely against diving (and to be fair, Suarez has done a lot less diving in recent months).
So I assume you think all handballs are intentional and the players are cheaters then? That's ridiculous. Sometimes the ball gets handled, it's part of the game. If the ref does his job correctly then we aren't having this conversation.
And we are talking about this isolated incident, not about diving. I have always been completely against diving (and to be fair, Suarez has done a lot less diving in recent months).
Oh you're so right. While he hits the grass more than Bob, he certainly doesn't cheat in any other facets of the game. I'll concede that point to you.
He's nothing but class, when he isn't diving like a blatant idio-- oh
Is it cheating every time someone gets a hooking penalty in hockey? Suarez's handball for Uruguay won his team the game and he was punished according to the rules. There was no attempt to fool the refs, so how is it cheating?
Anyways, this conversation was about today's handball, not Suarez's past.
Finally .... for your benefit, here's another one of his accidental handballs. Why is that people just can't give him the benefit of the doubt? I wonder ......
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What is strange about the logic? You said if he didn't want to handle it, he wouldn't have handled it. If its just that easy for him then why isn't it that easy for everyone else? There should never be any handballs by your logic.
And again, why would you consider his handball for Uruguay cheating? He prevented a goal and got a red card. It happens all the time and nobody calls it cheating.
What is strange about the logic? You said if he didn't want to handle it, he wouldn't have handled it. If its just that easy for him then why isn't it that easy for everyone else? There should never be any handballs by your logic.
The key word is intentional. He could have avoided it. Where did I say that ALL handballs were unavoidable?
Desperate logic. The cat is white therefore all cats are white ......
The key word is intentional. He could have avoided it. Where did I say that ALL handballs were unavoidable?
Desperate logic. The cat is white therefore all cats are white ......
It's from point blank range on a ball that is changing direction off the keeper. If that's intentional then that's pretty damn impressive.
Nothing to do with expectations. Just the simple fact that those players that consistently cheat are labelled cheaters.
re. Ghana game. You're the one that's saying there was attempt to deceive. Back it up.
I said there wasn't attempt to deceive. It's done in plain sight. The pros of breaking a rule are greater then the cons. That's the same thing that happens all the time in hockey when a decensemen pulls down a player on a breakaway.
Regardless of what EP team your a fan of or country Suarez is very talented but he Is a D.Bag to the game.
Nothing but a diving weasel.
Now he can add a handball weasel to his resume of being a creep.
Regardless of what EP team your a fan of or country Suarez is very talented but he Is a D.Bag to the game.
Nothing but a diving weasel.
Now he can add a handball weasel to his resume of being a creep.
I thought handball weasel was already on his resume?
I said there wasn't attempt to deceive. It's done in plain sight. The pros of breaking a rule are greater then the cons. That's the same thing that happens all the time in hockey when a decensemen pulls down a player on a breakaway.
Or when that occurs on an empty net, it is automatically counted as a goal. Not the case with what Suarez did, so why not do it? He's doing all he can to win. In hockey, with the empty net auto goal rule, your best bet is to try and psych him out, shove him a bit if you can catch up, and hope he Patrik Stefans the thing.
When it comes to Suarez, yes he dives and uses his hands. I'm not a fan of it, but I'll live with it, as it's packaged with the otherwise incredible way in which he plays. He has had a few goals lately where he could have just hit the deck but didn't, so hopefully in that light it's something he's trying to change and get used to.
When it comes to refs, if they don't clearly see something, and they assume it's a Suarez dive rather than a real foul, I don't blame them. However, if they DO clearly see it and it's a foul, then they shouldn't be letting it go because of their distaste for his tactics. If they're doing that, they are being just as unprofessional as him, and only helping fuel him to keep doing it, since he will feel that he doesn't get the calls even if they are warranted.
When it comes to football fans on this forum, I'm amused at how Liverpool bear the brunt of any and all ridicule, as if the teams that other posters support are groups of 11 honourable gentlemanly footballers, with the most respectable managers in the game. Because Chelsea's players are not racist and Manchester United don't have a manager who crosses lines while speaking of referees in interviews.
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