F-22 Raptor Crashes At Tyndall AFB Panama City, Florida

[PIMking]

http://www.wjhg.com/home/headlines/P...179557981.html

[valo403]

Where the hell is Hwy 98?

[HPLovecraft]

I don't mean to pick on you specifically PIMking, but how come Americans reference random places and expect everyone all over the world to know where it is? I run across this a surprising amount of time online.

[PIMking]

Tyndall AFB Panama City, Florida

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

I don't mean to pick on you specifically PIMking, but how come Americans reference random places and expect everyone all over the world to know where it is? I run across this a surprising amount of time online.

Sorry, just didn't think of it and most Yanks wouldn't know either. I just thought it was interesting since we've probably had more F-22 wrecks and the plane hasn't even been in combat.

[Reaper]

Wierd thread title as it actually crashed on an open area of Tyndall Air Force Base that can be seen from Highway 98.

[FlameOn]

These things along with the Ospreys have horrible safety records, been 4 crashes now out of the 190 odd built. Problems with power cutting out and oxygen failures for the pilots.

Doesn't bode well for the F-35 program given they are both manufactured by Lockheed Martin.

[PIMking]

I'm not too knowledgeable about the actual planes we use in the USAF but we still use the F-15 and 16 mainly right?

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by HPLovecraft

I don't mean to pick on you specifically PIMking, but how come Americans reference random places and expect everyone all over the world to know where it is? I run across this a surprising amount of time online.

Similar thing, when I was flying an aircraft down to Denver we would constantly hear other visual traffic giving position reports by using the county name.

How the heck am I supposed to know what county I am flying in? There is no county names on the charts, use towns, cities, airfields, and other easily identified locations to give a position report.

We only heard this in the states, I have never heard vfr traffic in Canada identifying location by county.

Grinds my gears!

[puckluck2]

You should edit the title. It didn't crash on the highway.

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

Similar thing, when I was flying an aircraft down to Denver we would constantly hear other visual traffic giving position reports by using the county name.

How the heck am I supposed to know what county I am flying in? There is no county names on the charts, use towns, cities, airfields, and other easily identified locations to give a position report.

We only heard this in the states, I have never heard vfr traffic in Canada identifying location by county.

Grinds my gears!

Hey at least we use counties instead of parishes like those idiots in Louisiana

[undercoverbrother]

It appears the pilot is ok. That takes big big balls.

The pilot, who has not been identified, was able to bail out seconds before the crash, apparently waiting until the last minute to eject so he could send the plane into a non populated area of the base, just off Hwy. 98.

[FlameOn]

Originally Posted by PIMking

I'm not too knowledgeable about the actual planes we use in the USAF but we still use the F-15 and 16 mainly right?

For air superiority yes. Mostly it's F-15 and 16s used by the USAF. Navy uses primarily F/A-18s nowadays. All of these are supposed to be replaced by the F-35 Lightning II but that is extremely behind schedule with lots of software problems and production issues.

Lockheed Martin the manufacturer hasn't had the best project safety and schedule records as of late.

[Northendzone]

Originally Posted by valo403

Where the hell is Hwy 98?

i would guess between hiways 97 and 99 - but I have never been to the Panama City area, you may wish to google this.

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

i would guess between hiways 97 and 99 - but I have never been to the Panama City area, you may wish to google this.

Also known as LA (Lower Alabama) because the Panhandle is more like Alabama than it is Florida.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by PIMking

I'm not too knowledgeable about the actual planes we use in the USAF but we still use the F-15 and 16 mainly right?

The F22 is the next generation fighter jet. I believe the main reason it hasn't seen combat yet is there hasn't been a conflict where the US would need its advanced capabilities, the other fighters were sufficient.

The US government is afraid that if they were used in a combat situation the technology would fall into Chinese or Russian hands (those two countries are still developing the designs of their next generation fighters). The fear has basis since the Chinese were able to catch up to US stealth technology by buying the wreckage of a F-117 from a Serbian farmer in the 90s.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

The fear has basis since the Chinese were able to catch up to US stealth technology by buying the wreckage of a F-117 from a Serbian farmer in the 90s.

For how much? Do you have a link?

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

For how much? Do you have a link?

doesn't say how much

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011...de-in-america/

Back in March 1999, the F-117′s wreckage was possibly still cooling when foreign agents sprang into action. “At the time, our intelligence reports told of Chinese agents crisscrossing the region where the F-117 disintegrated, buying up parts of the plane from local farmers,” Adm. Davor Domazet-Loso, then the top Croatian officer, told the Associated Press.


“The destroyed F-117 topped that wishlist for both the Russians and Chinese,” added Zoran Kusovac, a military consultant based in Rome.