2012-2013 Toronto Blue Jays Off Season Thread

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by dustyanddaflames

If we can somehow avoid another of the Lansing 3 and TDA - this can't be anything other than great news!

Yeah, completely agree. Keep those guys and we're in very good shape.

This immediately makes the Jays a contender in the AL East and the offseason has only just begun!

[d_phaneuf]

The Marlins just got 84m in payroll this year

100 down to 16

[dustyanddaflames]

Also a little surprised a catcher hasn't been mentioned going back to Miami... I have no clue what to make of this anymore - my mind is in a trance, and I think I like it. If true, we'd have JPA, TDA, Buck, Mathis, Wilson as catchers.... could there be more shuffling to come?

[TitovFTW]

This is why you build up a farm system though FYI as a lot of people are saying AA finally caved. Jays don't lose any on field talent and still might be able to have one of the strongest farm systems if the names given up are it

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

Yeah, completely agree. Keep those guys and we're in very good shape.

This immediately makes the Jays a contender in the AL East and the offseason has only just begun!

don't want to get ahead of it but

Reyes
Bonificio
Bautista
Encarnation
Lawrie
Rasmus
Lind/1b
JPA/TDA
2b/LF (depending on where Bonificio plays)

JJ
Morrow
Beurhle
Romero
Hutchison?

that's the strongest team (on paper) in the AL East

[d_phaneuf]

The Blue Jays and Marlins major league teams basically just merged in to one (minus Stanton)

[VERVE]

Originally Posted by TitovFTW

Every scouting report, everyione that follows baseball has him projected at best to be an average bat. he doesn't walk, he doesn't hit for power and he struggles with anything outside of fastballs. He's John Macdonald but with a little better bat and slightly better defense

"The Red Sox's Cuban shortstop prospect Jose Iglesias gets a lot of ink, but 2009 defectee Hechavarria is probably the superior player. In MLB terms, Hechavarria is an 'offensive-minded' shortstop in the Cal Ripken mode: a high-average hitter with above-average power. At the plate so far, though, his spray chart looks a little more like Ichiro Suzuki: he has a knack for finding infield holes and hitting behind runners."

Two months into 2012, Adeiny Hechavarria's adjustment period looks to be very much a thing of the past, and he is continuing to live up to the offensive potential scouts saw in the young Cuban two seasons ago. After sixty games at AAA Vegas, Hechavarria's .332/.376/.461 line comes out as a .837 OPS, plenty good enough for a pro shortstop. We'd like to see him take a few more walks, but that's nitpicking ...

http://www.scoutingbook.com/players/p2657

[dustyanddaflames]

Lind should be enough to get Stanton included...

[chalms04]

@jonmorosi Source: #Marlins will get Jacob Marisnick or Anthony Gose, as well as a catcher -- Arencibia, Wilson or Mathis.

[d_phaneuf]

not TDA, perfect

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

don't want to get ahead of it but

Reyes
Bonificio
Bautista
Encarnation
Lawrie
Rasmus
Lind/1b
JPA/TDA
2b/LF (depending on where Bonificio plays)

JJ
Morrow
Beurhle
Romero
Hutchison?

that's the strongest team (on paper) in the AL East

And who's to suggest they aren't players in free agency yet? Suddenly Toronto just became that much more desirable a destination (assuming this all goes through) for free agents.

Not saying they'll have any more money to spend, but if there is can you imagine?

[dustyanddaflames]

Im okay with this - time to fire up MLB The Show 12, game time

[jschick88]

My mind is going crazy right now. Instant contenders!! Well done AA well done.

[TitovFTW]

Giancarlo Stanton ‏@Giancarlo818 Alright, I'm pissed off!!! Plain & Simple

[TitovFTW]

@jonmorosi: Source: #Marlins will get Jacob Marisnick or AGose, as well as a catcher -- Arencibia, Wilson or Mathis.

[dustyanddaflames]

Originally Posted by TitovFTW

@jonmorosi: Source: #Marlins will get Jacob Marisnick or AGose, as well as a catcher -- Arencibia, Wilson or Mathis.

What is there to debate?

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by TitovFTW

Giancarlo Stanton ‏@Giancarlo818 Alright, I'm pissed off!!! Plain & Simple

still time to throw him in....

[moon]

It was the type of deal that AA had to make eventually. Having a top ranked prospect system is fun for the fans and better than having crap but it often doesn't result in wins on the field.

With the money Rogers has good (for Blue Jay fans) to see them willing to take on a lot of salary to get some talent at the big league level.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

And who's to suggest they aren't players in free agency yet? Suddenly Toronto just became that much more desirable a destination (assuming this all goes through) for free agents.

Not saying they'll have any more money to spend, but if there is can you imagine?

yep, don't even need a big name

there will be cheap options that are upgrades on Lind easily, maybe even a SP like McCarthy for below value

[bluejays]

I like Arencibia, because he was a good guy, but we have a near future replacement. Gose looks like a great guy to have in your OF. With him there The Jays would have the best defensive OF in the league, so it would really suck losing him. Not sure how I feel about Gose being included.