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Old 10-30-2012, 07:44 AM   #81
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Love the Nexus 10 styling. I'm also not much for a 10" tablet, but 300 PPI is ridiculous. About time a company truly pushed Apple with integrated hardware/software.

Huge problem for Google is still their lack of content in the Play Stores internationally.
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Old 10-30-2012, 07:48 AM   #82
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Welcome to the early adopters club.
Could be worse, you could have bought a playbook at full prince.
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Could be worse, you could have bought a playbook at full prince.
Is that worse or having the touch pad at full price? At least Play books are going to get BB10.
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:54 AM   #84
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I've been to make the jump from iPhone to android (but not fully committed to giving up my 4S). For that price point, it seems like a no brainer to pick it up and give it a try. From the looks of it, it uses a micro sim, so it will be super easy to switch between the 4S and this.


If it's on GSM/HSPA+ will I be able to get on the 4G network on Rogers?
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:04 AM   #85
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I've been to make the jump from iPhone to android (but not fully committed to giving up my 4S). For that price point, it seems like a no brainer to pick it up and give it a try. From the looks of it, it uses a micro sim, so it will be super easy to switch between the 4S and this.


If it's on GSM/HSPA+ will I be able to get on the 4G network on Rogers?
4G network no. 4G (or LTE) device will probably not launch until after release much like the last Nexus. 3/3.5G launched in a global edition first last time around. LTE device launching 2 or 3 months later. Thing is to launch things globally it's better to do it without LTE first since you are probably tied to specific carriers with LTE since the spectrum is so different between all the different countries (something like 40 different bands globally defined in the spec). LTE is also very limited in scope at the moment with the number of users.
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:39 AM   #86
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4G network no. 4G (or LTE) device will probably not launch until after release much like the last Nexus. 3/3.5G launched in a global edition first last time around. LTE device launching 2 or 3 months later. Thing is to launch things globally it's better to do it without LTE first since you are probably tied to specific carriers with LTE since the spectrum is so different between all the different countries (something like 40 different bands globally defined in the spec). LTE is also very limited in scope at the moment with the number of users.
Thanks. Came across this article, might not want to wait for a LTE version for now if I want to play in the Nexus sandbox for a bit.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3...ot-have-4g-lte

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Thanks. Came across this article, might not want to wait for a LTE version for now if I want to play in the Nexus sandbox for a bit.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3...ot-have-4g-lte
From what I remember, the LTE version was limited to Verizon?
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:20 AM   #88
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16gb no expansion SD is a major bummer.
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:28 AM   #89
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Thanks. Came across this article, might not want to wait for a LTE version for now if I want to play in the Nexus sandbox for a bit.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3...ot-have-4g-lte
The thing is with LTE is that it is a clusterfata of different frequency allocations with 43 different bands to negotiate with. If you buy a phone that has LTE, chances are if you ever move to another country, it won't work with LTE anyways because LTE allocations will be so different. Bands are different widths, centered at different places, spaces between the bands are different, there are even bands that are centered at the same frequency, but will have different uplink and downlinks which will vary from country to country. Imagine having to negotiate access to each of these networks and designing hardware that works with all those for a global launch and globally compatible product? Not going to happen.

Canada alone is a mess at the moment. We use band 4, 7 and 10 between our carriers and iPhone 5 only supports bands 4 and 10, so one band will get the shaft and you might get more spotty LTE coverage depending on which LTE carrier you are with. This will be true for any LTE product and Google probably just made the decision to launch a globally acceptable product first and not delay dealing with the LTE mess until later.
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Thanks. Came across this article, might not want to wait for a LTE version for now if I want to play in the Nexus sandbox for a bit.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3...ot-have-4g-lte
After reading this I understand the reasons behind not having LTE. I even support it. Why ruin the user experience?

But for me, no LTE and no memory expansion are a deal breaker for me. I'll wait and see what else comes down the Nexus line.

I'm sure that Google will make LTE work on a pure Nexus phone. Just not now.
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Old 10-30-2012, 01:02 PM   #91
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I might be one of the oddballs out there but who needs more than 16 gbs of memory on a phone anyways? I've had a smartphone with 8gb for almost 2 years now with no issues and I still have a 64gb ipod that is more user friendly than any phone could be besides an iphone
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I might be one of the oddballs out there but who needs more than 16 gbs of memory on a phone anyways? I've had a smartphone with 8gb for almost 2 years now with no issues and I still have a 64gb ipod that is more user friendly than any phone could be besides an iphone
16GB is fine, it is definitely the lower limit though. I have no idea how I'd deal with 8GB. I have a 16GB phone and it does take some managing at times but all that means is removing a plethora of albums I haven't listened to in a while for new stuff. I'm not a huge video on a phone watcher, if I do that I'll just stream Netflix for half an hour. I use a tablet for movies etc now on longer trips.
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Great video, thanks for posting that. In lieu of an actual product launch announcement glad we got an in depth look like this. Here is his GoogleNow video. Haven't watch this one yet though.
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Old 10-30-2012, 01:21 PM   #94
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I think 16gb is fine as well. I have a 16gb 3gs and I have about 3gb of space left over at the moment. I don't watch any video on my phone and I don't have a ton of apps. For my application I think it is ok. I would have preferred 32gb just to have it available if needed, but it's not the end of the world for my situation.

I know Google is trying to push cloud, but is it really that big of a deal to allow us 32gb or 64gb of space for the people who want it? You can buy flash memory anywhere that contains 64gb in this tiny little square, i'm sure i'm probably simplifying it, but honestly, this shouldn't even really be an issue.
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Old 10-30-2012, 02:24 PM   #95
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is Google Music (or whatever their cloud music service is called) work in Canada? I thought it was US only when it came out.

On a side note, I'm really liking "The Verge". Only recently stumbled across it and like it much more than my previous mainstays Engadget and Gizmodo.
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is Google Music (or whatever their cloud music service is called) work in Canada? I thought it was US only when it came out.

On a side note, I'm really liking "The Verge". Only recently stumbled across it and like it much more than my previous mainstays Engadget and Gizmodo.
Google Music is not publicly available in Canada yet, Europe will get it in November and when we get it will depend on Google licensing with our music labels and CRTC rules (which I'm told are horribly restrictive). That being said, nothing is stopping you from using something like hotspotshield (free) and signing up for it in Canada. Once the signup is complete, you can use it as any American would since your account is already activated. I've been using it for the last couple of years.

The Verge is great. Magazine format and much more modern tech blog.
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is Google Music (or whatever their cloud music service is called) work in Canada? I thought it was US only when it came out.
It depends what you want to do. If you want to buy music you need to be in the US, but if you just want to use the cloud backup for files that you already have and stream them to a device they're pretty lax about doing it from Canada. You need to use a VPN to sign up for the service (to trick it into thinking you're signing up from the US) and after that you can use it wherever. I've uploaded and streamed tons of music all from Canada.
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The Nexus4 will have DC-HSPA+ (42Mbps) capability.

Basically people on Bell/Telus service will be able to take advantage of this. Huge plus for Canadians especially considering how both of these carriers are having their own promos for bringing your on devices.
Bell with 10% off your monthly bill, Telus with an instant $100 activation credit. Nation wide coverage with the already reliable HSPA network and no need to worry about battery drain from LTE.

Another check for the Nexus over the Note 2...

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Old 10-30-2012, 06:08 PM   #99
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is Google Music (or whatever their cloud music service is called) work in Canada? I thought it was US only when it came out.

On a side note, I'm really liking "The Verge". Only recently stumbled across it and like it much more than my previous mainstays Engadget and Gizmodo.
The cloud services if Google Music aren't officially in Canada but it is oh so worth it to take the 10 minutes to set it up. Engadget has a good guide if you Google it.

Never having to plug your phone in to sync is amazing. And you can mark songs as available for offline very easily. Love it.

Google Now is also amazing. This is the kind of thing that really saves you time. I get notifications if traffic sucks on Deerfoot for the drive home, flights, weather, etc. When hockey starts up it will show game scores for teams it knows I'm interested. Truly one of the coolest things about an Android phone.
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I might be one of the oddballs out there but who needs more than 16 gbs of memory on a phone anyways? I've had a smartphone with 8gb for almost 2 years now with no issues and I still have a 64gb ipod that is more user friendly than any phone could be besides an iphone
Well if Google Music were available in Canada a lot of people probably wouldn't have a problem with it. Sadly it isn't, yet.

Once it is I see no need for more than 16GB.
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