09-09-2012, 08:10 PM
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To be perfectly blunt, there is no possible way there isn't more to this story. Without knowing what actually happened, there is no way to judge.
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09-09-2012, 08:15 PM
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What does Springs1 have to say about this? Let's get her back.
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09-09-2012, 08:16 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Jets4Life
hello all,
My friend recently went to a nightclub Saturday. She bought a couple of drinks, then acted responsible by asking for a glass of water. The bartender outright refused her request.
What I want to know is this illegal in Alberta, or most provinces for that matter? I know that in Ontario, bars/pubs have been found legally culpable after they serve patrons too much to drink, or refuse to give visibly intoxicated individuals water to sober up.
Does anyone know what the law says about such action?
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As stupid as this sounds usually clubs won't give you water from the fountain and make you purchase bottled water. That is from my experience anyways.
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09-09-2012, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
To be perfectly blunt, there is no possible way there isn't more to this story. Without knowing what actually happened, there is no way to judge.
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Agreed, at the ripe old age of 41 I have never heard of this. Every pub/bar/club I have ever been to, anywhere in the world, North America, Europe, Africa give out free water.
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09-09-2012, 08:21 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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As per this document they must provide something others then liquor:
http://aglc.ca/pdf/liquor/liquor_laws_&_you.pdf
Page 18:
"1. Can I charge for water?
Yes. However, all prices must be posted.
2. Can I insist all of my customers buy something to stay in my premises?
Yes. However, you cannot demand that they buy liquor; they could be asked to purchase a
non-alcohol drink for example. You could also consider implementing a cover charge."
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09-09-2012, 08:21 PM
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A Fiddler Crab
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Chicago
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I know that any place which serves liquor can be held liable, as well as the individual server or bartender if someone they have served alcohol to causes any kind of accident.
However, I don't think there's any legal requirement to serve water upon request. It's just a dick move. Don't go back to that bar.
Also, spread their name far and wide on the internet, write a letter to the owner/manager about the unprofessional conduct of their staff. The margin on alcohol is so enormous that any bar trying to gouge you on water is either a) breathtakingly greedy or b) right on the ragged edge of failing.
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09-09-2012, 08:34 PM
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Water doesn't sober you up.
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09-09-2012, 08:42 PM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Iginla
Water doesn't sober you up.
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It definitely eases any hangover though.
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09-09-2012, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by fotze
Ny no mentioning the name of the place, you are acting worse than the non-water serving club.
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My friend is in Winnipeg. If you must know the name of the club, it is called "Fame." 
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09-09-2012, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
To be perfectly blunt, there is no possible way there isn't more to this story. Without knowing what actually happened, there is no way to judge.
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All I can add to the story is they did have bottled water for $4.
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09-09-2012, 08:56 PM
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Scoring Winger
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I haven't looked at the relevant Manitoba statutes/regulations but I highly doubt that there is a positive obligation to provide free water as a matter of law. Which is a very different beast from an obligation not to overserve patrons (which can have liability attached to it).
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09-09-2012, 11:02 PM
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: where the lattes are
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Originally Posted by jschick88
As stupid as this sounds usually clubs won't give you water from the fountain and make you purchase bottled water. That is from my experience anyways.
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I have never experienced that except in Florida.
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09-09-2012, 11:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fotze
I don't even think gay guys would go to a place with that name.
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It is a gay bar, I think. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
The funny thing is, when I read the first post my initial thought was this must have been a bar in Manitoba.
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09-09-2012, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jets4Life
All I can add to the story is they did have bottled water for $4.
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And she could have purchased it if she wanted, right? Then it looks like Dirty Mr. Clean already answered it, assuming they have similar regulation as Alberta. A bit sleazy, but legal.
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09-10-2012, 08:10 AM
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Your friend was probably acting like a ###### to the bartender and that's why he refused. Never in my life or anyone else's have I ever been refused a drink of any kind...unless you act like a ###### to the bartender. I think you should ask your friend to tell you the other half of the story he/she is leaving out. Then report back here so we can judge properly.
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09-10-2012, 08:17 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Jets4Life
All I can add to the story is they did have bottled water for $4.
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I have been to after hours clubs that make you buy bottled water, but never a normal club. Was it something like that?
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09-10-2012, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Agreed, at the ripe old age of 41 I have never heard of this. Every pub/bar/club I have ever been to, anywhere in the world, North America, Europe, Africa give out free water.
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It's fairly common in Europe to charge for bottled water, and they won't serve tap water. In one city we were told it's illegal to serve tap water, but I don't know if that's true.
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09-10-2012, 08:26 AM
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Dances with Wolves
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Section 304
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I believe because the water/sober connection is a myth there would be no legal reason that a club would have to serve it.
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09-10-2012, 08:30 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by MoneyGuy
It's fairly common in Europe to charge for bottled water, and they won't serve tap water. In one city we were told it's illegal to serve tap water, but I don't know if that's true.
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And even if they do offer tap water, the "default" in Europe is usually bottled water unless you specifically ask for tap water. In Slovenia, it was cheaper to buy wine than it was to buy water, so I made the most of it!
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