Canada Breaking Diplomatic Ties With Iran

[drhu22]

It sounds like they have a hard on for war again... ie: the west.

[Azure]

How is this having a hard on for war?

[drhu22]

Originally Posted by Azure

How is this having a hard on for war?

Can you think of a better description of why america went into iraq?
Either time? Or S America? Or many other examples?

Ie..the wars they fight are for self advancement, not stated political or moral reasons.

[saskflames69]

I'm prepared to serve my country if needed.

[Yasa]

Originally Posted by saskflames69

I'm prepared to serve my country if needed.

In this context, going to war with Iran doesn't serve Canada at all.

Originally Posted by drhu22

Can you think of a better description of why america went into iraq?
Either time? Or S America? Or many other examples?

Ie..the wars they fight are for self advancement, not stated political or moral reasons.

That has nothing to do with Azures post. He said "How is this having a hard-on for war?" (emphasis added) as in, how does severing diplomatic ties serve as a wanting war.

[saskflames69]

Originally Posted by Yasa

In this context, going to war with Iran doesn't serve Canada at all.

What if this is the big one? Everybody is angry at each other, there's a big cloud of hatred trapped in the Earth's atmosphere and it's going to take a full scale conflict before people wake up and stop this intolerance.

Sorry for being so pessimistic, but I smell war a-brewin'.

[Yasa]

Originally Posted by saskflames69

What if this is the big one? Everybody is angry at each other, there's a big cloud of hatred trapped in the Earth's atmosphere and it's going to take a full scale conflict before people wake up and stop this intolerance.

Sorry for being so pessimistic, but I smell war a-brewin'.

I don't think a war is going to happen, but lets say it does. How would Iran threaten Canada unless we put soldiers on the ground? They don't have the capability of coming anywhere near us. The chances of Iran striking anybody (yes, even Israel) in my opinion are pretty low.

Something pretty big obviously happened to cause Canada to pull out its diplomats and expell Iran's, but I don't believe it's something as serious as a precursor to war.

[drhu22]

Originally Posted by Yasa

In this context, going to war with Iran doesn't serve Canada at all.



That has nothing to do with Azures post. He said "How is this having a hard-on for war?" (emphasis added) as in, how does severing diplomatic ties serve as a wanting war.

Given Harpers previous demonstrations of independent thought and actions in these matters vis a vis america, it makes me think something is up. Ie: he/they wouldnt make such a bold gesture without americas influence. To me, if America wants war its for self gain...nothing else (hard on), and maybe Americas wishes has something to do with this.

[transplant99]

I would suggest this is much more likely to be seen as support for Israel more than anything the US wants from Canada.

A major conflict has been brewing for a while between Iran and Israel and it looks like something might erupt...I see Israel going for a pre emptive strike if diplomacy doesnt get something settled soon.

Not a very pretty scenario any which way you look at it though.

[Forever Flames]

http://www.news1130.com/news/nationa...diplomats-home

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle4526167/

Starting a thread like this with no link is a pain in the butt.

[drhu22]

Originally Posted by Forever Flames

http://www.news1130.com/news/nationa...diplomats-home

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle4526167/

Starting a thread like this with no link is a pain in the butt.

Sorry

[Calgaryborn]

I likw the idea of Canada calling a spade a spade. Iran is a bad character and we shouldn't associate with them. We certainly don't need Iranian diplomats influencing the Iranian/Canadian community.

[drhu22]

Originally Posted by transplant99

I would suggest this is much more likely to be seen as support for Israel more than anything the US wants from Canada.

A major conflict has been brewing for a while between Iran and Israel and it looks like something might erupt...I see Israel going for a pre emptive strike if diplomacy doesnt get something settled soon.

Not a very pretty scenario any which way you look at it though.

Edit: Nah...that was a crappy post.

[SeeBass]

Originally Posted by saskflames69

I'm prepared to serve my country if needed.

I may get roasted for this but I am still on the fence if one drop of Canadian blood is worth it for Israel.

[Magnum PEI]

Originally Posted by SeeBass

I may get roasted for this but I am still on the fence if one drop of Canadian blood is worth it for Israel.

Why would you get roasted for that? There are plenty of '10 mile strips of land' in the world and they chose the one that would piss people off the most. I'd fight for Iran before Israel.

[Daradon]

Tranny is probably right. It probably won't even be a declaration of war, but Israel striking at suspected nuclear and possibly military targets in Iran. Whether it blows up into an actual war with ground troops will have to be seen. Somehow I don't see that happening, I can't see how Iran would think it would have a chance. But it will ratchet up tensions and terrorism down there.

[driveway]

As a bleeding-heart liberal pinko progressive hippie, I want to say that I'm totally fine with any nation preemptively striking any other nation whose leaders:

a) deny the right of another nation to exist.
and
b) are building nuclear weapons.

If the leaders of Burkina Faso began publicly and repeatedly decrying the existence of Sierra Leon and clamouring for its eradication and then started enriching uranium I would be totally pro dropping bombs in Burkina Faso.

[transplant99]

A list of reasons

— Iran refuses to comply with the United Nations resolutions pertaining to its nuclear program
— Increasing military assistance to the regime of Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad
— Iran shelters and "materially supports" terrorist groups
— Routine threats to the existence of the state of Israel
— Repeated violations of the Vienna Convention which governs diplomatic relations between most countries of the world
— "Racist anti-Semitic rhetoric and incitement to genocide," Baird said.
— Worst violators of human rights.

http://www.calgarysun.com/2012/09/07...mbassy-in-iran

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by transplant99

— Worst violators of human rights.

According to that bat-#### crazy old man on Stephen Ave yesterday around lunch, Canadians are.

Tell me I wasn't the only person who saw this goof.

[MarchHare]

— Worst violators of human rights.

Citation needed.

I'd never hold up Iran as a bastion of human rights, but they're not the bottom-of-the-barrel worst offenders. According to this source, they were 10th worst in 2012, with citizens of Iraq, Yemen, North Korea, Pakistan, Myanmar, Afghanistan, Somalia, Congo, and Sudan having a greater risk of suffering a human rights violation.