08-28-2012, 10:45 AM
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you have no reason to doubt my claims based on the fact I'm unwilling to divulge personal info about my occupation.
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Actually, we have EVERY reason to doubt your claims. You're acting like a stereotypical internet tough guy. Why should anyone on this forum believe you have any credibility if you refuse to show us any proof of your experience or even divulge your occupation?
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08-28-2012, 10:59 AM
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#182
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My face is a bum!
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Sweet, a transit cop found the NYC shooting thread!
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08-28-2012, 11:24 AM
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#183
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Aleks
you have no reason to doubt my claims based on the fact I'm unwilling to divulge personal info about my occupation.
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There you have it folks, everything you read on the internet (and especially message forums) is true.
Aleks, you're bass-ackwards.
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08-28-2012, 12:09 PM
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#184
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Originally Posted by Aleks
Not it sure is good that only trained officers can carry guns eh? Keep in mind that I put more rounds through my pistols in one session then 95% of officers will in 2-3 years of their mandatory 'training'...It's evidenced in scenarios like this. Condolences to all the victims and families. 1 CCW permit holder could have ended it immediately
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Clown was also incorrect  . My comment was simply pointing out that trained firearms handlers aren't immune to poor judgment/execution |
Is a CCW not a trained firearm handler?
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08-28-2012, 12:48 PM
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#185
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Originally Posted by Rathji
Is a CCW not a trained firearm handler?
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Ha, the other question is how a civilian CCW permit holder could have "ended it immediately" when 2 police officers, who have more firearm training than a CCW permit holder, were unable to.
Classic garbage from Aleks, who is apparently too busy getting the mustard stains out of his mall security uniform to support his bold statements.
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08-28-2012, 01:19 PM
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Seriously we should set Aleks up with Springs1, they'd make the perfect couple.
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08-28-2012, 02:10 PM
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Seriously we should set Aleks up with Springs1, they'd make the perfect couple.
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Easy there, Springs1 is in the hall of fame for internet awesome.........Aleks, not so much....
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08-28-2012, 07:59 PM
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#188
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Thank you for everything CP. Good memories and thankful for everything that has been done to help me out. I will no longer take part on these boards. Take care, Go Flames Go.
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08-28-2012, 08:05 PM
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#189
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Slow clap.
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08-28-2012, 08:06 PM
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Uncle Chester
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Florida is a scarrrry place.
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08-28-2012, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Rathji
Is a CCW not a trained firearm handler?
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Yes, that's why I said could, not would. No absolutes here, just outlining the additional scenarios
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08-28-2012, 08:35 PM
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Ha, the other question is how a civilian CCW permit holder could have "ended it immediately" when 2 police officers, who have more firearm training than a CCW permit holder, were unable to.
Classic garbage from Aleks, who is apparently too busy getting the mustard stains out of his mall security uniform to support his bold statements.
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No mall security here. I'm educated thanks 
And you really discount the training a civilian has in firearms handling and discharge. Are there some civvies that do very little? Yup. Are there some that do tons? Yup. Same goes for police
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08-28-2012, 08:37 PM
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#193
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Originally Posted by Aleks
No mall security here. I'm educated thanks
And you really discount the training a civilian has in firearms handling and discharge. Are there some civvies that do very little? Yup. Are there some that do tons? Yup. Same goes for police |
I don't deny that, but I'm pretty sure there are also a ton of people who have guns that are not well trained and I don't want to get hit by some stray bullet over $20. Seriously just let the robber take my money, no vigilante necessary.
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08-28-2012, 09:55 PM
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First Line Centre
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He's a paramedic. Fact.
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08-28-2012, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Red John
He's a paramedic. Fact.
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Yup, he is - a paramedic with some sort of axe to grind. Pretty odd stance for a medic to take. You still a big Stern fan, Aleks?
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08-28-2012, 10:27 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Phanuthier
I don't deny that, but I'm pretty sure there are also a ton of people who have guns that are not well trained and I don't want to get hit by some stray bullet over $20. Seriously just let the robber take my money, no vigilante necessary.
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See, thats the mindset that is false. People simply aren't going to get shot over $20, thats not how the rules of CCW work.... Granted there are gang shootings over likely similar amounts, but we can't expect criminals to be of the law abiding mindset, so we have to exclude that aspect when we compile statistics (see earlier post regarding the 19 shootings in Chicago). Does it happen? Sure every once in a while, but that same once in a while someone dies in a bar fight over a drink or a girl, or someone is hospitalized over a road rage incident, firearms or not. Believe it or not but the average firearms owner is law abiding and responsible, and like all groups of people there are a few that set a very poor example that makes us have to show we aren't all like that. Remember that the majority of people that would carry, already possess, so they are no more likely to begin to contribute to negative statistics than they already do 
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08-28-2012, 10:29 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by KeepCalmCarryOn
Yup, he is - a paramedic with some sort of axe to grind. Pretty odd stance for a medic to take. You still a big Stern fan, Aleks?
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Nah he sucks pretty bad nowadays. If I didn't get Sirius at a big discount I probably wouldn't have it  A little more digging would show I'm also a VW enthusiast (uh oh!), I ride a crotch rocket (double uh oh!), and awww you already knew we cheered for the same team....And no axe to grind, just really get frustrated at the misconceptions people have about lawful firearms owners who exercise a right to carry, millions of them, daily, without incident
I'm curious why you say I take an odd stance on this?
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08-28-2012, 10:31 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by SportsJunky
Florida is a scarrrry place.
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Agreed....Florida is an example of poor implementation of castle doctrine style laws....middle ground would be ideal
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08-29-2012, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by PIMking
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Do you really want to get into a back and forth of posting news stories where either a) A gun is used for good, or b) A gun is used for not good?
Guess which one wins?
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08-29-2012, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Aleks
No mall security here. I'm educated thanks
And you really discount the training a civilian has in firearms handling and discharge. Are there some civvies that do very little? Yup. Are there some that do tons? Yup. Same goes for police |
You said two things, first that a CCW holder could have ended it, and second that "trained firearms handlers aren't immune to poor judgment/execution." So which is it? You strolled in here saying that you could have John Wayne'd the whole thing, and after getting your absurd position kicked around for a while changed your tune. So pick one.
You could have ended it immediately, right? Because you've fired shots at a moving target that just assassinated someone a block away and is now pointing the gun at you. You've worked under those conditions, right? One shot, boom. Just like in the movies.
You my friend, are completely full of it.
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