Minor hockey coach investigated for tripping player

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I feel like I'm really repeating myself here. I wasn't making any legal judgements. Im not sure why you guys keep bringing up what he can be charged with. I never debated whether he could be charged under our criminal code.

Nor did I defend the douchiness so I'm not sure how that's relevant.

So, what was your point with your post then?

EDIT: Forgot to quote, but you said, 'Criminal charges for tripping someone?'

So if those two things weren't your point in that sarcastic question, what was?

[First Lady]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Yes. It's a jerk move but are we now going to make convicted criminals out of child trippers? Ones who are in full padding with a helmet on no less.

Oh I get it. He was dressed to take some abuse, so he was totally asking for it.

/sarc

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Yes. It's a jerk move but are we now going to make convicted criminals out of child trippers? Ones who are in full padding with a helmet on no less.

/hewasaskingforit

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Now I'm not sure if you guys are just trolling me or joking.

Who said he was asking for it? Because the guy didn't intend to hurt him?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Now I'm not sure if you guys are just trolling me or joking.

Who said he was asking for it? Because the guy didn't intend to hurt him?

I reckon most of use a writing serious posts.................oh wait I get it you're trolling us......you must be trolling.....that's the only explanation on why you think an adult needs to trip a 13 yr old, and get away with it.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Well I was just joking. I just think saying the kid has padding seems irrelavent. Whether he had no pads or every pad known to man on doesn't change the idiocy of what this guy did.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Daradon

So, what was your point with your post then?

EDIT: Forgot to quote, but you said, 'Criminal charges for tripping someone?'

So if those two things weren't your point in that sarcastic question, what was?

Again I'm not sure if serious.

I thought I was pretty clear the other 8 times I've said it.

I don't think this guy has a mental illness.

I don't think this was worthy of jail time or a criminal conviction. IMO of course. I don't think he meant to hurt this kid. I think he's just a petty idiot.

I think he's a dink. I think he's a bad coach a bad role model and all the other terrible things.

I don't think the kid deserve it.

This guy is in no way comparable to kids who suffer real child abuse. You know like beatings and verbal abuse.

I think it's offensive to compare this to kids who are assaulted violently by parents, coaches or whoever including other kids. This kid won't be scarred for life. He's not gonna need counseling. This coach isn't a danger to society.

[Swayze11]

Guys, I just did an investigation into this...

Yup, he tripped him.

Case closed.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Well I was just joking. I just think saying the kid has padding seems irrelavent. Whether he had no pads or every pad known to man on doesn't change the idiocy of what this guy did.

Well of course it doesn't make it any less stupid but aww screw it just read my other 20 posts in this thread.

If I haven't articulated my opinion by now no amount of repeating myself is going to change that now.

If y'all wanna call me terrible go ahead.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Again I'm not sure if serious.

I thought I was pretty clear the other 8 times I've said it.

I don't think this guy has a mental illness.

I don't think this was worthy of jail time or a criminal conviction. IMO of course. I don't think he meant to hurt this kid. I think he's just a petty idiot.

I think he's a dink. I think he's a bad coach a bad role model and all the other terrible things.

I don't think the kid deserve it.

This guy is in no way comparable to kids who suffer real child abuse. You know like beatings and verbal abuse.

I think it's offensive to compare this to kids who are assaulted violently by parents, coaches or whoever including other kids. This kid won't be scarred for life. He's not gonna need counseling. This coach isn't a danger to society.

K, but you did mention your surprise at criminal charges. When we brought up the reasons, both legal and moral, you started acting like that wasn't part of your point. However it clearly was.

I didn't question your other comments, though some did. But most of us did clue in on the criminal charges thing cause as we've mentioned, it's not only legally there, but morally there too.

So then I was just confused about that.

Now maybe you think criminal charges means this guy is going to jail, or will be like other, more serious child offenders. No, he won't and I don't think anyone here suggested that. But it is legally and morally wrong and it is not surprising nor excessive to see charges being laid. This is not a family looking to cash in or make a point.

And no, no one is trolling you. Or clowning you. Perhaps it's just a problem with the way you write your posts, as opposed to your actual opinion, but you brought up some pretty big discussion topics and we went for them.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Again I'm not sure if serious.

I thought I was pretty clear the other 8 times I've said it.

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I get what you are saying Cecil, but where do you draw the line? What about if he waited until after everyone got off the ice and he saw the same kid in the corridor and decided to give him a shove and the kid ended up on his ass?

[First Lady]

Originally Posted by Rerun

I get what you are saying Cecil, but where do you draw the line?

He has made his position clear on where to draw the line.

It's okay if no bones are broken and also okay if they are wearing protective gear.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Rerun

I get what you are saying Cecil, but where do you draw the line? What about if he waited until after everyone got off the ice and he saw the same kid in the corridor and decided to give him a shove and the kid ended up on his ass?

Slippery slope.

I don't think this is the right thread to discuss what if scenarios. All I know is I watched that video and while it was stupid it wasn't hard to watch or anything. When I see stuff that sickens me I know because it makes me uncomfortable to watch.

This was not what I'd describe as a disturbing video. Honestly I felt a whole lot worse watching those kids bully that old lady on the bus.

What changes everything is that the kid broke his wrist. Intentional or not that means the heat is gonna be on this guy and it's going to be spun as child abuse.

All I'm prepared to say based on that video is that banning him from minor hockey and coaching, along with the public shame for him and his family is punishment enough to satisfy me. And I'm the kinda guy that thinks that people like jerry Sandusky should be taken out back and have a bullet put in their skull.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I'm the kinda guy that thinks that people like jerry Sandusky should be taken out back and have a bullet put in their skull.

agreed.

[Daradon]

Yup. +1 Still doesn't make this case assault though.

[Coys1882]

This guy has been named and shamed - he's probably cried himself to sleep each night since it happened because of the shame. If they charge this knucklehead he's going to a get either a complete discharge or a conditional one with probation which he won't violate because he's too embarrassed to leave his house for the next 15 years. So the end result is no criminal record and a waste of tax dollars for pushing this through a court.

The kid will recover from his wrist injury without the need of PTSD counselling - he'll be playing hockey and masturbating 10 times a day in no time.

[speede5]

What did the kid do before this all happened? The coach is an idiot, but it's not that big a deal. Kick him out or suspend him for a year and it's done.

[metallicat]

Originally Posted by speede5

What did the kid do before this all happened? The coach is an idiot, but it's not that big a deal. Kick him out or suspend him for a year and it's done.

I'm curious too. It's not an excuse to trip a kid in the handshake line, but I'm betting this other kid did something pretty bad to one of his opponents.

[MrMastodonFarm]

pylon and CaptainCrunch are gone, so I'll tell you what they would say.

Good!!!

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by oilers_fan

I'm curious too. It's not an excuse to trip a kid in the handshake line...

BUT BUT BUT HE TRIPPED A CHILD! A defenseless innocent! I suppose you'd be okay with it if he waited in the parking lot and ran the child over with a pick-me-up truck!

To the gallows with this man. All you bleeding hearts should be ashamed of yourselves. Maybe you should go to the gallows yourself, after your "Tripping Hockey Coach Fan Club" is disbanded, it's membership rolls burned and manifesto sent to the ocean floor tied to a brass cannon.