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Old 04-29-2012, 07:25 PM   #421
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You are right he does my point and I didn't make it clear was that he doesn't flop more than others.
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:40 PM   #422
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Lebron hasn't flopped that much in Miami so likely not that much, if any, more than he did in Cleveland. I think it likely has to do more that anything that look remotely like a flop he is going to get killed for by the haters.

I didn't see a ton of flopping or bad calls in yesterdays game. FT disparity had a lot to do with one team being good and forcing other team to foul and the other team being the pathetic Knicks.
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:56 PM   #423
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Lebron is a complete loser, he will never be a champ.
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:25 PM   #424
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Lebron is a complete loser, he will never be a champ.
Based in what?

He took a Cleveland team that was his awful without him to the finals and went to game 6 last year in the finals.

He has been the best player in the league since joining and is still young.

The Lebron hate is silly and pointless.
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Old 04-29-2012, 09:42 PM   #425
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No point arguing whether Lebron is a great player or not. Its undeniable that he is... But he's still a loser, and a lot of the hate is rational.
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Old 04-29-2012, 09:47 PM   #426
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No point arguing whether Lebron is a great player or not. Its undeniable that he is... But he's still a loser, and a lot of the hate is rational.
He is maybe half way through his career loser seems very early to label him.
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Old 04-29-2012, 09:49 PM   #427
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He is maybe half way through his career loser seems very early to label him.
Fair enough, but when I refer to him as a loser the majority of it is based on his personality and the way he carries himself.
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Old 04-29-2012, 10:15 PM   #428
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LeBron just doesn't seem to have that drive to win that a guy like Kobe, who I certainly don't like, but he clearly has it. LeBron seems to lack a killer instinct and frankly his attitude makes him a very easy target.
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Might be the worst choke I've seen in recent memory.
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Old 04-29-2012, 11:10 PM   #431
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The Grizzlies came from Vancouver, they're naturally going to choke.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:33 AM   #432
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Hilarious reading John Hollinger's reaction to the Hawks-Celts game last night. He along with practically every other media head picked the Celts. The best part is they referred to the Hawks as the "Joe Johnson-led" Hawks while doing it. I think they realized last night this is the Josh Smith led Hawks and he is the best player right now on either team.
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Old 04-30-2012, 03:14 PM   #433
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Based in what?

He took a Cleveland team that was his awful without him to the finals and went to game 6 last year in the finals.

He has been the best player in the league since joining and is still young.

The Lebron hate is silly and pointless.
Based on his career, and jumping on wades nuts to go title chasing. The hate is not silly or pointless. Many points are to be made why he is a loser on the court, and his ######y attitude.

If Cleveland was so awful, how did they manage to have over 60 wins two years in a row. It wasn't a 1 man effort.
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Based on his career, and jumping on wades nuts to go title chasing. The hate is not silly or pointless. Many points are to be made why he is a loser on the court, and his ######y attitude.

If Cleveland was so awful, how did they manage to have over 60 wins two years in a row. It wasn't a 1 man effort.
Well although he hasn't won the Championship he has won a lot more and done a lot better than most guys so there sure are a ton of losers in the NBA and other sports.

How well did Cleveland do when Lebron left? Who on those teams outside of maybe Varejao was any good?
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Well although he hasn't won the Championship he has won a lot more and done a lot better than most guys so there sure are a ton of losers in the NBA and other sports.

How well did Cleveland do when Lebron left? Who on those teams outside of maybe Varejao was any good?
What has he won ? A few MVP awards, Steve Nash has a few as well.
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What has he won ? A few MVP awards, Steve Nash has a few as well.
So you are saying Steve Nash is a loser? Just clarifying where you stand on this.
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So you are saying Steve Nash is a loser? Just clarifying where you stand on this.
No I do not consider Stephen Nash to be a loser.
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LOL, Chris Duhon with the "travel dance" from Game 1 the other night.

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People hate LeBron not because he's not great because you're a fool if you don't think he is, he just has a piss poor attitude and quite frankly has a propensity to come up small when it counts, which makes him enjoyable to hate. Kobe used to make himself a ridiculously easy target too, difference was he won (and was still dogged for not winning one without Shaq).
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I never said he is a crappy player, he is a good player. He just isnt a winner, and most of it his own fault because he's a failure when it matters most.
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