Calgary woman brutally assaulted in Mexican resort

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

i'd put way more faith into the Cuban government cracking down on these types of incidents if they started occurring than the incredibly corrupt Mexican government. that's the worst part about all these stories, there has been zero justice for the families

Agreed. Cuba actually has the lowest crime rate in the Western hemisphere, which may shock some. With the economic blockade there for the past 50 years (I know its finally softening, but still playing an effect), the Cuban government is well aware that tourism is one of their biggest moneymakers and are very protective of tourists visiting there.

You do not want to go to their draconian jails there for assaulting/robbing/murdering a tourist.

[Lt.Spears]

I'm heading to Mexico next week, i actually saw the deal for this Riu resort when i booked my trip. Thankfully I'm going to the Riviera Maya which is pretty safe.

First thing i thought of was that this girl was going to buy drugs and deal went South.

Scary regardless.

[FlameOn]

Originally Posted by Realtor 1

On the news they mentioned something about letting the entire police force go because it was so corrupt and that the biggest problem is they dont have detectives and their prosecution rate is 1.5%. I think that is the biggest problem but of course it stems back to the drugs which is money and the drug money will pay a cop a lot more than the wage he would make. The only way to solve all this is to crack down BIG time on the drugs and I just dont see it happening.

That's the main problem, drug cartels like Zetas and a few others have so much money and resources at their disposal compared to regular police officers even clean cops have problems getting by. You know something is really wrong when the drug cartels are better armed with automatic weapons, have police scanners, broken into police communications, and can announce over the police radios where and when a clean cop will be killed. The resources those drug loads have is astounding, like the case where the anonymous blogger wound up tortured and dead at the city gates after speaking out against the cartels publicly. You can't have a very effective police force when the police know that they can't protect themselves.

For the most part, the Mexican government is trying to do something about it by deploying the army and the heavy weapons/equipment that they have at their disposal. But the thing is I don't think the problem will go away until the demand for drugs in the US is cut down (which will never happen) so the cartels have less power and the Mexicans can clean up their forces.

[Flabbibulin]

Hey, lets place initial suspicion on the husband, a fellow citizen, and give the benefit of the doubt to the Mexicans... I know theyve earned it?!

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by Flabbibulin

Hey, lets place initial suspicion on the husband, a fellow citizen, and give the benefit of the doubt to the Mexicans... I know theyve earned it?!

It's not that - it's the fact that the vast majority of these in the end turn out to be "domestic", and not "strangers".

[Flabbibulin]

Originally Posted by fotze

Lets be not stupid by being stupid.

Jumping to conclusions is kind of the entire point of this place.

So the only possibilities are a. Husband , b. the mexicans.

C. Those crazy Germans that get 28 weeks vacation and go everywhere?!

[red sky]

Heading to PV in March. I actually just booked it on the weekend knowing fully well about this latest incident. I guess these things just don't concern me enough to change my decision...

[Brewmaster]

I tend to agree that there's more to this story than a random attack in the hallway of a 5 star resort. The article also mentions this:

Local media reports in Mazatlan suggested the woman was found in a pool of blood in the elevator and that traces of blood were found in the hallway of her room, suggesting that’s where she was attacked. However, that information couldn’t be independently confirmed.

If it happened in the room or right outside, it's even less likely that the husband wouldn't have heard a thing. I also think it's suspicious that they were only in Mexico for 5 or 6 hours before this happened.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by Brewmaster

I tend to agree that there's more to this story than a random attack in the hallway of a 5 star resort. The article also mentions this:

You missed the part that also says "However, that information couldn’t be independently confirmed."

[Kybosh]

This is why I exclusively vacation at places where the residents are physically less powerful than me. Ideal vacations can be had at retirement communitities and malnourished nations.

[Machiavelli]

Hopefully she wakes up with neurological function....she'd probably be able to say who the attacker was (or at least, wasn't).

[Thunderball]

I have to agree with Vlad... if you look at the circumstances of the crime, if you're not immediately suspecting the husband, you're not doing it right.

Last minute vacation, weak alibi, nonsensical attack (centered on the face no less... that's pretty telling in many cases), leading AWAY from the room, not towards (if a woman was being attacked by a strange man, wouldn't she try to get to her husband?), so far no discussion on if there was any sexual assault. Has domestic all over it. The sequence of events just doesn't fit a local or a druglord-induced attack to send a message. But of course, this is conjecture based on what little has been released to the public.

Naturally, people assume it must be the "lawless, savage Mexicans." In my experiences in that country, I've found the biggest issue with Mexico is that its low price point, proximity to home, and language barrier attracts and exposes the non-sophisticated vacationer. It also attracts people looking to "cut loose" and do things they wouldn't do at home because they feel there are no consequences there cause its an "inferior nation" to Canada/US.

Of course...in the case of that mobbed up Montreal couple who were killed, a place where the guard was down enough for a hit to take place.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by Thunderball

(centered on the face no less... that's pretty telling in many cases)

I guess for me that leaves even more questions. If it was the husband who wanted her dead; why not make sure? Why not stab her, or something where you could be sure she was dead.

[COGENT]

I leave for Mexico on Thursday. My mother in-law phoned at 6:45 this morning to tell us about this story.

For the record I love my wife and I'm very white...

[Thunderball]

Originally Posted by ken0042

I guess for me that leaves even more questions. If it was the husband who wanted her dead; why not make sure? Why not stab her, or something where you could be sure she was dead.

To me its because he wasn't rational. Heat of passion, loss of control, the classic "whoosh" sensation automatism response, that old thing.

I figure if it was a drug deal gone wrong, or a guy with a mind to commit murder lurking loose in a resort, they'd have taken the time to carry something like a knife or gun.

Either way, its pretty sad stuff.

[FlamingLonghorn]

If it was the husband I figure he would do 1 thing that he failed to do: Make sure she actually died.

[Old Yeller]

In reading this thread I went from thinking you're all idiots for suspecting the husband to hoping the Mexicans post armed guards at her hospital door for fear of the husband finishing the job.

Not really, I blame the Dutch.

[Thunderball]

Originally Posted by fotze

You would think his hands would be affected.

Look at us, so many murder mystery shows.

Assuming he used his hands, and not a blunt object, or his feet.

I suspect if it was the husband, he's praying her memory of the incident is gone (assuming he even has memory of it), and probably blaming every dark and swarthy guy within a 100 mile radius, using that "Mexico is Dangerous" card to the utmost.

[Sliver]

I don't think it makes any sense to try to kill your spouse in Mexico. You want to keep your nose clean there, not end up in hot water. You may even have more chance for the authorities to want it to be you down there than if you were here - it would take the heat of their fellow Mexicans and potentially not hurt tourism as bad if they could blame the husband.

I'm not following your logic on this one, guys. It could be the husband, but it would be a seriously stupid place IMO to potentially end up in trouble.

[M*A*S*H 4077]

I've been to Mexico 4 times and driven through Tijuana twice. Not once have I ever felt unsafe and absolutely I would go back for a vacation or mission work.

That being said reading that just makes me sick. I hope the corrupt legal system can figure itself out long enough to catch the guilty party