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Old 12-14-2011, 07:58 PM   #461
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On what station? I'd be curious to see if somebody would be able to fight a ticket by saying that the gov't sponsored ads were incorrect or incomplete.
He was paraphrasing, as such his claim was inaccurate, and they air on QR77.
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Old 12-15-2011, 09:29 AM   #462
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I was paraphrasing but you can't deny that is what they are basically saying. I'll try to record one if I catch it in time.

Right now they are pulling a WKRP on QR77, Rutherford is drinking and blowing in the breathalyzer.
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Old 12-15-2011, 09:51 AM   #463
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I know I'm really, really late to the party here, and this may have been mentioned, but I had some time to play with a DOT approved breathalyzer, and 0.05 for most people is drunk.

After hockey, no dinner yet, I put back 1.5L of beer (the equivalent of 5 cans) in 40 minutes, and blew a 0.04. There is no way I would have gotten behind the wheel. 0.08 is really, really drunk.

Here are some other people's results:

http://www.beyond.ca/bill-26-passes-...e-2/11275.html
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Old 12-15-2011, 10:22 AM   #464
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I know I'm really, really late to the party here, and this may have been mentioned, but I had some time to play with a DOT approved breathalyzer, and 0.05 for most people is drunk.

After hockey, no dinner yet, I put back 1.5L of beer (the equivalent of 5 cans) in 40 minutes, and blew a 0.04. There is no way I would have gotten behind the wheel. 0.08 is really, really drunk.

Here are some other people's results:

http://www.beyond.ca/bill-26-passes-...e-2/11275.html
I don't think that's ever been a point of argument. What's been argued is the fact that this bill effectively eliminates rights of due process.
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Old 12-18-2011, 10:46 AM   #465
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Seems like they are out to get drinkers one way or another.

http://www.calgarysun.com/2011/12/17...lberta-coffers

Further reading... http://www.corymorgan.com/?p=774
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Old 12-18-2011, 11:22 AM   #466
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I passed a checkstop on 22x yesterday at about 3:00pm. There were probably 3 or 4 vehicles getting ready to be towed. I was shocked...and then concerned because i was still pretty hungover.
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Old 12-18-2011, 11:27 AM   #467
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Subject #2 had one drink and part of a second and passed out? Yikes. Although it says that she doesn't really drink, that has to be about the worst tolerance to alcohol ever.

Subject #2 (120lbs, ATI 20.69) registered a 0.020 on the first test, and without finishing the 2nd drink, blew a 0.058. Stopped drinking completely and could not remember events past this point. Subsequently blew 0.050, 0.032 before passing out. Subject indicated inability to drive shorly after the 0.020 level, but prior to the 0.058 BAC.
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Old 01-08-2012, 11:17 AM   #468
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Some drunk #### killed her passenger and the driver of the car she ran into.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/ea...991/story.html

Wasn't worth its own thread so I put it here.
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Old 01-08-2012, 11:25 AM   #469
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Some drunk #### killed her passenger and the driver of the car she ran into.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/ea...991/story.html

Wasn't worth its own thread so I put it here.
It's hard not to get emotional over this. This girl is going to spend her life regretting driving under the influence...
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Old 01-08-2012, 11:36 AM   #470
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It's hard not to get emotional over this. This girl is going to spend her life regretting driving under the influence...
Good. She only escaped with minor injuries and murdered 2 people.


But at least she wasn't in that .05-.08 danger zone!
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Old 01-08-2012, 12:21 PM   #471
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I moved the last 3 posts as they fit better here than in the distracted driving thread.
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Old 01-08-2012, 12:24 PM   #472
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I moved the last 3 posts as they fit better here than in the distracted driving thread.
LOL, my bad. I just realized that it wasn't the legal limit thread.
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Old 01-08-2012, 12:25 PM   #473
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Some drunk #### killed her passenger and the driver of the car she ran into.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/ea...991/story.html

Wasn't worth its own thread so I put it here.
Two 20-year old girls? My guess is they went to some idiotic club DT and were too lazy/stupid/cheap to catch a cab back to Hidden Valley or whatever neighbourhood their mommy lives in.
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This girl is going to spend her life regretting driving under the influence...
I'm willing to bet the families and friends of the people she irresponsibly killed will regret her decision a whole lot more.

What is it going to take before young people stop doing this? How many more wasted lives?

FFS be responsible. If you drink (ANYTHING) don't drive. Judgment calls are idiotic when your judgement is impaired. There's too much risk involved. People who have nothing to do with anything die in these cases.

What a complete, utter, total waste of life. Two dead, add to the pile of bodies, for NOTHING.
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The 0.5-0.8 debate aside, I would love to see much stricter penalties imposed on those who drive drunk, and particularly those who kill or injure while doing it. Jail time and lifetime driving bans. There is no excuse to do it even once, and the book needs to be thrown at drunk drivers.

This bitch deserves to sit in jail for a few years and should never be allowed behind the wheel again. #### her. Get a bus pass. Same thing goes if you get pulled over before you kill someone, or if you wrap yourself around a pole and survive. There is just no need to do it, and her right to hold a license and make a stupid decision should no trump someone else's right to live.
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Old 01-08-2012, 01:41 PM   #476
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I think that a chronic drunk driver wouldn't really care what the legal limit is, they are going to continue to drive totally smashed until they are either killed or get caught. Even if they get caught it may not stop them from doing it again. These people are the real problem, not someone who has a glass of wine over dinner or a beer after work.
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How many convictions before you have to put an ignition lock in your car? It would be nice to have that go in after the first conviction.

Side story, I was a at the court house a few years ago trying unsuccessfully to downgrade a speeding ticket. The guy before me was pleading with the judge to have his license reinstated. His license was revoked on the condition that he have the ignition lock installed but he wrote off his car in the accident that started everything. Insurance must not have covered him because he could no longer to afford a car and therefore had nothing to put the lock into. He wanted the judge to cut him a break but was stonewalled.
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The trouble is, this latest double-fatality driver clearly doesn't fall into the "beer after work" and probably not the chronic drunk driver category. The .5 law wouldn't have prevented this, and clearly the possibility of killing her friend and an innocent driver weren't considered.

That's exactly why the law needs more teeth to nail the people who drink and drive. Not the people between .5 and .8, but I don't really care that someone make the decision to endanger others once or twenty times. They're just a selfish pile of excrement and don't deserve the right to drive.

Anyway - this stuff pisses me off so I'm going away for a bit. This thread is obviously about the .5 rules, and in this case, it isn't really applicable. I'd be shocked if her blood alcohol level was .6 or something.
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Old 01-08-2012, 02:47 PM   #479
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why don't we see breathalizers linked to the engine ignition, like what was they had in the 40 old virgin?

to be honest, i think having a tool to tell a person if they are or are not at a blood % level , so they, and the passengers they are wtih, are fully aware that they are about to drive while over the legal limit, just seems like a pretty decent solution.
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why don't we see breathalizers linked to the engine ignition, like what was they had in the 40 old virgin?

to be honest, i think having a tool to tell a person if they are or are not at a blood % level , so they, and the passengers they are wtih, are fully aware that they are about to drive while over the legal limit, just seems like a pretty decent solution.
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