Vancouver staying classy: Stampeders' fans attacked over jersey

[corporatejay]

This happened in calgary to an Oilers fan a few years ago. The link to the original article is dead but here are two links to the discussion. Glass houses folks.

http://www.riderfans.com/forum/archi...p/t-58042.html

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?p=13381636

[Canada 02]

Originally Posted by troutman

WTF? Is that for real?

http://watch.tsn.ca/cfl-news-and-highlights/#clip575411

http://watch.tsn.ca/cfl-news-and-highlights/#clip575194

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

This happened in calgary to an Oiles fan a few years ago. The link to the original article is dead but here are two links to the discussion. Glass houses folks.

http://www.riderfans.com/forum/archi...p/t-58042.html

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?p=13381636

The difference is that Oiler fan mouthed off a carload of guys while being drunk in public. I don't care if you're wearing a Mother Theresa jersey you're going to eat a beating when you mouth off a car load of guys. Him wearing an Oilers jersey had nothing to do with his beating.

[ernie]

Originally Posted by Teh_Bandwagoner

Went to look up stats regarding cities that have rioted after the Stanley Cup finals by searching "Stanley Cup finals riot" on Google. The first 10 pages involved the 1994 and 2011 Vancouver riots. After that I just gave up.

Edit: Decided to try one more time... up to page 20...

Expand the list to something other than Stanley Cup. Perhaps to other sports. Boston had a curfews, parking restrcitions, capacity restricitions etc in place for game 7 and do for other major sporting events. There was a reason (hint: a riot happened when the Red Sox beat the Yankees in 2004. Police opened fire with pepper ball guns. A bystander died. Also numerous arrest in 2007 after winning the world series but no riots because they really upped the presence of officers in riot gear. The problem in Vancouver was a completely unprepared police force and city that made a really stupid decision to have that many people in one spot which is the opposite of what experienced cities do.) I was in Boston for games 3 and 4 and the police presence was, shall I say, significant even for those games. Shoulder to shoulder cops in riot gear at times in the immediate vicinity of the garden and surrounding bar area. Boston learned from the past. Vancouver didn't. Hopefully they have now.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by ernie

Expand the list to something other than Stanley Cup. Perhaps to other sports. Boston had a curfews, parking restrcitions, capacity restricitions etc in place for game 7 and do for other major sporting events. There was a reason (hint: a riot happened when the Red Sox beat the Yankees in 2004. Police opened fire with pepper ball guns. A bystander died. Also numerous arrest in 2007 after winning the world series but no riots because they really upped the presence of officers in riot gear. The problem in Vancouver was a completely unprepared police force and city that made a really stupid decision to have that many people in one spot which is the opposite of what experienced cities do.) I was in Boston for games 3 and 4 and the police presence was, shall I say, significant even for those games. Shoulder to shoulder cops in riot gear at times in the immediate vicinity of the garden and surrounding bar area. Boston learned from the past. Vancouver didn't. Hopefully they have now.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...t&sportCat=nhl

a list of a bunch more sports riots as well

LA has had 3 in the last 10 years, Denver 3 in 15,

[valo403]

Originally Posted by ernie

Expand the list to something other than Stanley Cup. Perhaps to other sports. Boston had a curfews, parking restrcitions, capacity restricitions etc in place for game 7 and do for other major sporting events. There was a reason (hint: a riot happened when the Red Sox beat the Yankees in 2004. Police opened fire with pepper ball guns. A bystander died. Also numerous arrest in 2007 after winning the world series but no riots because they really upped the presence of officers in riot gear. The problem in Vancouver was a completely unprepared police force and city that made a really stupid decision to have that many people in one spot which is the opposite of what experienced cities do.) I was in Boston for games 3 and 4 and the police presence was, shall I say, significant even for those games. Shoulder to shoulder cops in riot gear at times in the immediate vicinity of the garden and surrounding bar area. Boston learned from the past. Vancouver didn't. Hopefully they have now.

Being in the same camp as Boston sports fans isn't exactly a good thing. They aren't known as M#######s for nothing.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by puckluck

The difference is that Oiler fan mouthed off a carload of guys while being drunk in public. I don't care if you're wearing a Mother Theresa jersey you're going to eat a beating when you mouth off a car load of guys. Him wearing an Oilers jersey had nothing to do with his beating.

so you are saying mouthing off at someone is deserving of an assault?

and also, you are certain that him wearing an Oilers jersey had nothing to do with it, but the two guys wearing the Stamps jersey's (where only one side of the story was told) got beaten only because of wearing their jerseys

so if it happens in Calgary, the people were asking for it

if it happens in Vancouver, terrible town filled with d-bags

just so I can be clear on your thought process

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

so you are saying mouthing off at someone is deserving of an assault?

and also, you are certain that him wearing an Oilers jersey had nothing to do with it, but the two guys wearing the Stamps jersey's (where only one side of the story was told) got beaten only because of wearing their jerseys

so if it happens in Calgary, the people were asking for it

if it happens in Vancouver, terrible town filled with d-bags

just so I can be clear on your thought process

You just don't get it do you? Where did I say that them mouthing off was deserving of an assault? If you're going to argue like a 12-year-old there is no point in even arguing with you.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by puckluck

You just don't get it do you? Where did I say that them mouthing off was deserving of an assault?

Right here:

Originally Posted by puckluck

I don't care if you're wearing a Mother Theresa jersey you're going to eat a beating when you mouth off a car load of guys.

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Right here:

Do you understand what the word "deserving" means?

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by puckluck

Do you understand what the word "deserving" means?

Lets go to the interwebs!

de·serv·ing/dəˈzərviNG/

Adjective:Worthy of being treated in a particular way, typically of being given assistance.

Yep. Pretty much spot on with what you said.

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Lets go to the interwebs!

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Yep. Pretty much spot on with what you said.

You might wanna brush up on your reading comprehension skills.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by puckluck

You might wanna brush up on your reading comprehension skills.

Okay, so what are you trying to say there then?

"I don't care if you're wearing a Mother Theresa jersey you're going to eat a beating when you mouth off a car load of guys."

That is what you said, so what was your intent with that bad boy? What point are you conveying. That by mouthing off to a carload of guys, which is a bad idea, he got what he had coming to him?

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Okay, so what are you trying to say there then?

"I don't care if you're wearing a Mother Theresa jersey you're going to eat a beating when you mouth off a car load of guys."

That is what you said, so what was your intent with that bad boy? What point are you conveying. That by mouthing off to a carload of guys, which is a bad idea, he got what he had coming to him?

That mouthing off a bunch of guys in a car while being alone and drunk in the middle of the night is a bad idea. Is it really that hard to understand?
Does that mean I condone the guys jumping out of the car to beat him up? absolutely not, but that's what happens.

You know and I know that you know exactly what I was trying to say. You're smarter than that.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by puckluck

You know and I know that you know exactly what I was trying to say. You're smarter than that.

No, I really don't because the way you worded it sure reads a lot like "This got what was coming to him."

[MoneyGuy]

Originally Posted by East Coast Flame

Because things like this just don't happen.

Anecdotal evidence I know, but in my life I have done a lot of partying, and never once have I come close to getting into trouble. However, I have a friend who has "been jumped" 4 or 5 times over the last few years. If you heard it from him, every single one of these attacks has been completely unprovoked. However, I have been out partying with him. He's an #######. It does not surprise me in the least that he has provoked/pissed off someone enough to get himself into a fight.

What I'm trying to say is, things like this very rarely happen. You think two guys from Calgary in Vancouver on Grey Cup weekend are acting completely civil at 2:30 in the morning? Especially with the amount of people that would be out and about at that time, and no one came to these guys defense? Come on.

I agree with every word of this, except for the misuse of the word "amount." the are usually two sides to every story. I've worn my jerseys into enemy territory and have...well, to be honest, i did have a problem in Montreal. I may be wrong.

[18flames]

Originally Posted by Violator

We riot for everything Olympics,Hyatt,CFL,Hockey,fireworks

don't judge us its all we got we can never celebrate peacefully.

That and you pretty much have to walk around with a group of people unless you want to get jumped

Celebrating implies you have something worth celebrating about.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by 18flames

Celebrating implies you have something worth celebrating about.

Grey Cup? =D

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Grey Cup? =D

It's funny how many of my friends in Vancouver have put their FB statuses to say grey cup makes up a bit for losing the stanley cup or celebrating the year in sports that saw Canucks in the final, now Lions win the Grey Cup.

Grasping for straws to feel better about losing Stanley I guess.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

It's funny how many of my friends in Vancouver have put their FB statuses to say grey cup makes up a bit for losing the stanley cup or celebrating the year in sports that saw Canucks in the final, now Lions win the Grey Cup.

Grasping for straws to feel better about losing Stanley I guess.

I don't even feel slightly better. It was a trophy I care very little about and little more than a glorified excuse to get annihilated.

Stanley's cup is the only one I want to see won. Schneider shall deliver it to me, oh yes.