Al-Qaeda tells Iran to stop with their "ridiculous" anti-American conspiracy theories

[CaptainCrunch]

You know that you're in good company when a terrorist group calls your theories extreme.

[Fozzie_DeBear]

Originally Posted by worth

I swear I was looking for the Onion logo on that page:

Where can I find this magazine? Is it at 7-11?

ho-lee ####e, found a link to the "Spring 1431" issue of Inspire:

http://info.publicintelligence.net/InspireMarch2011.pdf

It's 70 goddamn pages and includes such gems as "Open Source Jihad" "Jihad Stories" and "Why Did I Choose Al-Qaeda?"

Their propagandists are wayyyy better than ours.

http://publicintelligence.net/inspir...-5-march-2011/

...you should be hearing some black helicopters any minute now...

I am sure the NSA (or whatever) is tracking every IP address that visits that site

[VladtheImpaler]

Yeah, I would not click on that site... especially from work.

[saskflames69]

Oh crap. I clicked on that site. It didn't load though..

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by saskflames96

Oh crap. I clicked on that site. It didn't load though..

Probably a good idea to clean out any questionable porn on your drive!

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by Fozzie_DeBear

...you should be hearing some black helicopters any minute now...

I am sure the NSA (or whatever) is tracking every IP address that visits that site

There is a Canadian equivalent, which is very hush, hush, but I know about it because I applied for a job there back when I was just a Russian-speaking History grad. I didn't make it because of my love of porn probably. Ahyhow, they did a lot of electronic surveillance for the Yanks because of the pesky US constitution...

[T@T]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

You know because America is supporting Al Qaeda in Libya so it's all good now.......maybe they could tell us how they got the explosives in the planes.

It's a simple procedure

[LChoy]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

There is a Canadian equivalent, which is very hush, hush, but I know about it because I applied for a job there back when I was just a Russian-speaking History grad. I didn't make it because of my love of porn probably. Ahyhow, they did a lot of electronic surveillance for the Yanks because of the pesky US constitution...

The CSE, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communi...ishment_Canada

I did a recruiting test for them back in the day too.
They do mostly electronic/signal/communication intelligence and security. None of the cool Sam Fisher types there

As an aside, Canada is a very interesting country where our security institutions aren't really well known. Granted I'm comparing it to the States where media and spy novels have written about the CIA and NSA and stuff.
Even CSIS wasn't really well known back in the day until those scandals broke out

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

You know because America is supporting Al Qaeda in Libya so it's all good now.......maybe they could tell us how they got the explosives in the planes.

Ok, this is like the 50th time that you've talked about explosives in a plane. Show me something that actually proves that, not some crackpot theory based on thin science.

And while your at it prove to me that the American's are supporting Al Qaeda in Libya and theoretical evidence that one guy who could have been in AQ in Libya was involved in the fighting isn't evidence of active American support.

And are you changing your theory on controlled demolitions to a theory that the planes were carrying explosives?

Are you also changing your theory that its the American government that were flying the planes or cruise missiles or whatever into the buildings to Al Queda actually did the mission?

I'm confused as hell.

And no theories are not proof.

And no obscure websites are not proof.

And theories about theoretical compounds are not proof.

Show me a money trail, produce a actual for real witness who's statement isn't heavily edited by "truthers" to make it fit their theories.

Come on Mikey, you keep asking people on the other side to provide proof that it wasn't the American government that did a false flag operation, its time for you to give me something that is actually believable.

I want science, not science fiction.

I don't want you to point to the planning of a false flag operation that was rejected at a governmental level as proof that 9/11 was a false flag.

I'm putting the same burden of proof on you, as what truthers expect from us so called sheeple.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

And while your at it prove to me that the American's are supporting Al Qaeda in Libya and theoretical evidence that one guy who could have been in AQ in Libya was involved in the fighting isn't evidence of active American support.

And are you changing your theory on controlled demolitions to a theory that the planes were carrying explosives?

Are you also changing your theory that its the American government that were flying the planes or cruise missiles or whatever into the buildings to Al Queda actually did the mission?

No, no .....I'm not changing my theory on controlled demolitions. I was joking about how the hijackers could only have had explosives with them in the plane, as they would not have access to wire the WTC buildings for demo.

I don't know who exactly flew the planes into the Pentagon/WTC, but it was certainly not the un-talented flight school flunk-out Hani Hanjour. It could have been done remotely, but that is what a new investigation could explore more thoroughly.

If you want science, look up Neils Harrit at the University of Copenhagen. His work in analyzing dust samples under the microscope is as real as it gets. He is featured in "Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out" film that AE911truth just released a week or two ago.....there are also other experts in demolition, materials, chemicals, physics etc. in the doc.

On the topic of Libya, I showed you in the Libya war thread how Benghazi and Darna produces Islamic terrorists under the group LIFG (Libyan Islamic Fighting Group) which today is still considered a terrorist organization by the State Department. They merged with Al Qaeda in 2007, and some of their fighters went into Iraq to fight against Americans. This was documented in the West Point "Combating Terrorism Center" report.
http://tarpley.net/docs/CTCForeignFighter.19.Dec07.pdf

"The report indicated that by far, the eastern region of Libya, in particular the cities of Darnah and Benghazi now serving as the epicenter of the NATO-backed rebellion, provided more fighters per capita to combat US troops in Iraq than any other nation, including Saudi Arabia. In the report, it is noted that most of these Libyan fighters were members of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) who were involved in an increasingly cooperative relationship with Al Qaeda. This relationship culminated in November 3, 2007, when the CTC report claims that LIFG officially joined Al Qaeda. The report than goes on to elaborately depict just how close together LIFG has been working with Al Qaeda, including the mention of LIFG member Abu Yahya, who is noted as second only to Ayman al-Zawahiri within Al Qaeda – al-Zawahiri at the time was Al Qaeda’s #2 under Osama Bin Laden."

[Beerfest]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

You know that you're in good company when a terrorist group calls your theories extreme.

Yea, terrorist groups tell the truth 100 percent of the time.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

If you want science, look up Neils Harrit at the University of Copenhagen. His work in analyzing dust samples under the microscope is as real as it gets. He is featured in "Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out" film that AE911truth just released a week or two ago.....there are also other experts in demolition, materials, chemicals, physics etc. in the doc.

Oh you mean the dust samples that he examined that given to them 6 years after the fact, were not kept in a sterile environment for those 6 years.

He even basically admits that the results could have been caused by contamination. From his own report

The resulting spectrum, shown in Fig. (14), produced the expected peaks for Fe, Si, Al, O, and C. Other peaks included calcium, sul-fur, zinc, chromium and potassium. The occurrence of these elements could be attributed to surface contamination due to the fact that the analysis was performed on the as-collected surface of the red layer. The large Ca and S peaks may be due to contamination with gypsum from the pulverized wall-
board material in the buildings.

Going further he says

These observations reminded us of nano-thermite fabricated at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and elsewhere

So he didn't compare it to actual nano-therminte that nobobdy outside of conspiracy theoriest [/quote]

Plus, again he admits that even he's not sure, because he has no basis of comparison

We would like to make detailed comparisons of the red chips with known super-thermite composites, along with comparisons of the products following ignition, but there are many forms of this high-tech thermite, and this comparison must wait for a future study.

And even going further

We make no at-tempt to specify the particular form of nano-thermite present until more is learned about the red material and especially about the nature of the organic material it contains.

He doesn't know what it is

we have shown that the red material contains both elemental aluminum and iron oxide

But gosh the red material contains rust and aluminum, one material which is common in computers, and the other which is rust.

so what we have is dust and samples that were recovered, held in non sterile environments for 6 years where there is a real possibility of contamination. They think its something that they've never seen before "Nano Thermite" but they're not sure because they can't compare it. But the material is composed of aluminum and rust, two materials that have been debunked earlier in this thread.


This isn't evidence, its seductive supposition.

On the topic of Libya, I showed you in the Libya war thread how Benghazi and Darna produces Islamic terrorists under the group LIFG (Libyan Islamic Fighting Group) which today is still considered a terrorist organization by the State Department. They merged with Al Qaeda in 2007, and some of their fighters went into Iraq to fight against Americans. This was documented in the West Point "Combating Terrorism Center" report.
http://tarpley.net/docs/CTCForeignFighter.19.Dec07.pdf

"The report indicated that by far, the eastern region of Libya, in particular the cities of Darnah and Benghazi now serving as the epicenter of the NATO-backed rebellion, provided more fighters per capita to combat US troops in Iraq than any other nation, including Saudi Arabia. In the report, it is noted that most of these Libyan fighters were members of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) who were involved in an increasingly cooperative relationship with Al Qaeda. This relationship culminated in November 3, 2007, when the CTC report claims that LIFG officially joined Al Qaeda. The report than goes on to elaborately depict just how close together LIFG has been working with Al Qaeda, including the mention of LIFG member Abu Yahya, who is noted as second only to Ayman al-Zawahiri within Al Qaeda – al-Zawahiri at the time was Al Qaeda’s #2 under Osama Bin Laden."

Please show me where the American's were directly supporting Al Queda in Libya, because thats what you were aluding too.

all this report is saying is that those individuals were fighting along side or had the same goal as the members of the current members of what I would call the provisional government.

But what your aluding to is more coincidence then either direct support or something more sinister.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Beerfest

Yea, terrorist groups tell the truth 100 percent of the time.

So they're like Truthers?

except terrorist groups don't edit quotes.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Come on now Captain.

Clearly the presence of aluminum and rust is bullet proof evidence that some "Super" or "Nano" or some other awesome adjective of thermite was used.

I mean what other explanation could there be for aluminum and rust being found in the dust after a 30 year old steel building was hit by a plane made mostly of aluminum.....

Clearly those samples match perfectly with some super explosive...if they they could actually compare them...if the knew what to compare it to...and if it actually existed.

[CaptainCrunch]

Even further conclusions by Harrit (btw who goes beyond chemical analysis to claim things like Dog sniffing dogs were removed from the WTC weeks before, and then disputes his own findings with quotes like this

It’s very, very possible that different varieties were used, and I personally am certain that conventional explosives were used too, in abundance.

RT: When you say “in abundance,” how much do you mean?

Niels Harrit: Tons! Hundreds of tons! Many, many, many tons!

RT: So we are not just talking about nano-thermite. In fact, we are talking about both nano-thermite and conventional explosives used in large quantities…"


So now we're back to hundreds of tons of conventional explosives being used.

Plus going further into the samples that were stored for 6 years and exposed to oxyen the precence of Iron Oxide are no surprise.

[Canuck-Hater]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

You know because America is supporting Al Qaeda in Libya so it's all good now.......maybe they could tell us how they got the explosives in the planes.

People always lose sight of this. Its a well known FACT that the United States Government funded Al-Qaeda. We already know the US has sold weapons to OBL on numerous occasions. I find it very interesting that the US government and Al Qaeda share the same rhetoric on so-called "outrageous conspiracy theorists".

[Canuck-Hater]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

Come on now Captain.

Clearly the presence of aluminum and rust is bullet proof evidence that some "Super" or "Nano" or some other awesome adjective of thermite was used.

I mean what other explanation could there be for aluminum and rust being found in the dust after a 30 year old steel building was hit by a plane made mostly of aluminum.....

Clearly those samples match perfectly with some super explosive...if they they could actually compare them...if the knew what to compare it to...and if it actually existed.

You do realize science confirmed that there was residue was in the dust right? These dust samples were collected at ground zero. I know the establishment media will come up with every excuse in the book to discredit reality. But wait nope a scientist with 30 years experience is clearly a "crazy conspiracy theorist"

[metallicat]

Ozy_Flame, are you still reading this thread?

[Beerfest]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

So they're like Truthers?

except terrorist groups don't edit quotes.

Or you know..like every government on earth.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Even further conclusions by Harrit (btw who goes beyond chemical analysis to claim things like Dog sniffing dogs were removed from the WTC weeks before, and then disputes his own findings with quotes like this

It’s very, very possible that different varieties were used, and I personally am certain that conventional explosives were used too, in abundance.

RT: When you say “in abundance,” how much do you mean?

Niels Harrit: Tons! Hundreds of tons! Many, many, many tons!

RT: So we are not just talking about nano-thermite. In fact, we are talking about both nano-thermite and conventional explosives used in large quantities…"


So now we're back to hundreds of tons of conventional explosives being used.

Plus going further into the samples that were stored for 6 years and exposed to oxyen the precence of Iron Oxide are no surprise.

So what?

It doesn't matter what combination of explosive or incindiery materials were used, either way the culprits had to have access to the buildings. Whether it was one stick of dynamite or a truck load of thermite and C4...this needs to be investigated.

Of course Neils Harrit included those comments in his report of possible error, every good scientist does that. It wasn't just the presence of those materials in the dust, but the way the particles were arranged in the little chips. It was not a mechanical mixture, but arranged in a very specific way, done in a labratory. The NIST report by the way, did not test any dust samples........does that sound like proper investigative procedure? ...not to mention CDI shipping 90+% of the steel to China almost immediately.

I don't know why you stand behind the official story when the very commission panel who investigated 9-11 doesn't stand by it. It's unbelievable...

Maybe watch a video interview with Harrit, he is very adamant that something is wrong. It is just so easy to pick a few points out of a comprehensive report while glossing over the stuff you are never going to change your mind on anyways...

And about Al-Qaeda in Libya, ...forgive me, just substitute "America" with "NATO". But you and I both know who runs that show.

...I'm out hockey's on!