Bin Laden offers truce.

[transplant99]

Yeah.....sure thing osama.

Im guessing he needs a truce allright....to rebuild a decimated infrastructure.

Sounds like things are starting to cave in on him and his cowardly friends.

Good...I hope they find them holed up somewhere and send them to their vestal virgin heaven in about a thousand different pieces.

[ken0042]

Kinda funny getting the American spin on this, I just received a CNN Breaking News email that said:
Al-Jazeera airs audiotaped message purportedly from Osama bin Laden warning that plans for attacks inside U.S. are under way.

Interesting how they left out the truce offer.

[troutman]

Sure, Osama, meet us in Geneva to sign a treaty. Oops, pen exploded. You're dead.

[TheyCallMeBruce]

Running out of money and supporters tend to do that to you.

[FireFly]

You don't really need that much money to hijack a plane though. The weapons of terrorists are not that expensive.

Either way, nice try and I doubt it.

[Cowperson]

Considering recent events, he probably doesn't know who he can trust right now. Geez, if you can't even accept a dinner invitation on the Pakistan border without a Hellfire blowing you to bits, what's become of life?

Or maybe it was the anti Al-Queda and anti-Taliban protests in Spinboldak on the Afghan side of the border yesterday. Where's the local Welcome Wagon gone!!??

Top ten questions on the application form if you're applying for the job as a doorman at Osama's cave

10. Do you have references from maniacal terrorists you've worked for?

9. Mind signing for exploding packages? You're not taking this job so you can kill Osama and get the $25 million, are you?

7. Do you mind being drugged, knocked out, blindfolded and driven 200 miles to and from work every day?

6. List three references who can vouch for your beard

5. Can you make balloon animals? Osama loves balloon animals

4. Will you contribute to the 401(K) even though there's not a chance in hell you'll see 65?

3. Are you okay with some light typing and filing?

2. List the schools where you received your fanatical, hate-filled "education"

1. May we pay you in sand?

http://www.professorcornbread.com/hu...tendoorman.php

Al-Jazeera's English language front page right now:

http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

Kinda funny getting the American spin on this, I just received a CNN Breaking News email that said:
Al-Jazeera airs audiotaped message purportedly from Osama bin Laden warning that plans for attacks inside U.S. are under way.

Interesting how they left out the truce offer.

CNN has run with the breaking news bulletin from Associated Press and haven't updated it with the full text yet. CBS, FOX and MSNBC all have the truce offer in their current stories.

Cowperson

[Calgary Flames]

If they hijacked another plane, people will not take it... Just like plane #4 they knew they were about to die and took their lives into their own hands. Not some cowardly terrorists.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by Calgary Flames

If they hijacked another plane, people will not take it...

While I agree with what you are saying, I wonder if the terrorists would also be aware of this and simply kill everybody onboard as soon as they take the plane.

Mythbusters already proved that firing a gun will not cause explosive decompression.

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by ken0042

While I agree with what you are saying, I wonder if the terrorists would also be aware of this and simply kill everybody onboard as soon as they take the plane.

Mythbusters already proved that firing a gun will not cause explosive decompression.

Prior to 9/11, the common reaction to hijacking was to simply sit in your seat and let things unfold . . . . and you'd probably live.

These days, aside from the ****pit doors being locked and basically impenetrable, there aren't many males on a plane that are going to be sitting around waiting to see what happens if a person or person stands up making threats.

Come to think of it, how many successful hijackings have occurred globally since 9/11? Not many. If any. And how do five hijackers or so kill 70-280 people in a hurry?

Think cargo planes with only a few crew members.

Cowperson

[Flame On]

I think it was on the Daily Show (excuse the source and lack of link) that I recently saw an expert comment that pre Iraq war the US seriously had Alqaida on the run and it actually took a step back with Iraq. But they still must be pretty battered as the extended hand would suggest. IMO.

[MarchHare]

Running out of money and supporters tend to do that to you.

Wait...are you talking about Al Qaeda or the US?

[Claeren]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Wait...are you talking about Al Qaeda or the US?

gahahahahahaha....



Seriously though. Bin Laden, or at least people like him, still hold all the cards. One success every ~10 years is all they need!

For god sakes, even a failure that is close to a success is likely going to draw a response that drains western coffers and capacities more then those of the eastern extremists. And it will take more then killing Bin Laden to actually make progress on the American side.

The last thing i would do is go around boasting about how this must mean that Al Qaida is doomed and on its last legs.

The important thing to remember is that this war has been going on for the better part of the last 4000 years. Bin Laden and George Bush are just bit players in a much larger story...

Claeren.

[transplant99]

The last thing i would do is go around boasting about how this must mean that Al Qaida is doomed and on its last legs.

Then why offer a truce?

[FireFly]

To lull the US into a sense of complacency.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by FireFly

To lull the US into a sense of complacency.

Well IF that's the "thought" process....it's laughable. There isnt a thing this guy, or anyone in this group, could say that the US would believe enough to let up on whatever measures they have been taking the last 5 years.


The US will never just get complacent about these guys.

[Claeren]

Or, they know it will be revoked without thought by the Americans. Which allows them to yet again claim to be the good guys and the Americans as the ones bent on war and destruction.

The funny part is that the Americans will do exactly that...

(Not to say the Americans should go along with it, but it would likely be best if they at least played along. That way if Al Qiada does do anything it is them that are the war mongering bad guys. Unfortunately conservatives around here seem to think that it matters what they think is 'just' to bring peace to the middle peace. Instead of worrying about what people in the actual middle east think is 'just'.)


Claeren.

[calculoso]

Originally Posted by Claeren

That way if Al Qiada does do anything it is them that are the war mongering bad guys.

That's a pretty big 'if'.

I wouldn't want to even try and predict the 'if'.

Besides... they're the ones that are deliberately blowing up civilians. Isn't that bad enough to make them "war mongering bad guys"?

[Claeren]

Originally Posted by calculoso

That's a pretty big 'if'.

I wouldn't want to even try and predict the 'if'.

Besides... they're the ones that are deliberately blowing up civilians. Isn't that bad enough to make them "war mongering bad guys"?

Kind of proving the point about perspective.

Doesn't it occur to you that many, many people in the middle east think it is THE USA that is blowing up innocents needlessly and recklessly?

It is only black and white to those living in middle class bliss/ignorance in North America.


Claeren.

[calculoso]

Originally Posted by Claeren

Doesn't it occur to you that many, many people in the middle east think it is THE USA that is blowing up innocents needlessly and recklessly?

It is only black and white to those living in middle class bliss/ignorance in North America.

Whatever you say. Nice that you can just dismiss the direct targetting of innocents by saying "they killed one too!"

Sure innocent people have been killed by the US. To deny that is ridiculous. The difference is that their deaths have been accidental. To deny that difference is also ridiculous.

Should innocent civilians ever be killed? No. To deliberately target them is just unforgivable.

[Claeren]

Originally Posted by calculoso

Whatever you say. Nice that you can just dismiss the direct targetting of innocents by saying "they killed one too!"

Sure innocent people have been killed by the US. To deny that is ridiculous. The difference is that their deaths have been accidental. To deny that difference is also ridiculous.

Should innocent civilians ever be killed? No. To deliberately target them is just unforgivable.

Wow. How did you get that from what i said?

I said nothing of the sort and until you can figure out how to read and apply basic logic i am done with this convo...


Claeren.