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habsfan1984 · 01-17-2006, 01:47 PM

If you vote for Liberal or Conservative your nothing but a moron.

Trust me people, do what the Germans recently did and start thinking about your childrens future...vote NDP or Green.

These two parties are not about partisan bickering, they are about taking action. I find it completely absurd that people would vote for a 'lesser evil' and think they are voting for 'change' when in fact they are voting for a party that has screwed us just like the Liberals have. Give your head a shake Canada, because before you know it, we're gonna be begging that we put in a different government instead of the extremely greedy ones (Conservative and Liberal) that run our resources into the ground.

evman150 · 01-17-2006, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by fotze

What is with Victoria, they are ultra left leaning yet pump their raw sewage into the ocean, a practice that would make the most evil oil company wince. That is crazy.

It's filtered. Sorta.

But ya, it's pretty gross. It has never gotten much attention until this past year. Suddenly it's a really big issue, THE issue in our riding. It's even more bizarre considering our MP for the last decade+ was the United Nations environment guy.

It's kind of funny though. There is an organization out here called POOP - People Opposed to Outflow Pollution. Their mascot who participates in the local parades is named "Mr. Floatie" and he is just a big piece of ****. The annual parade in my municipality goes right by my house and I see these little kids just loving Mr. Floatie like he's Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck, clueless to the fact he's a six foot piece of ****. Quite funny.

http://www.poopvictoria.ca/

MarchHare · 01-17-2006, 01:55 PM

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If you vote for Liberal or Conservative your nothing but a moron.

Oh, the irony!

looooob · 01-17-2006, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by transplant99

Cause he will still win in a landslide.

yes he will. but that's mostly inspite of him, not because of him

I am seriously thinking of not voting for the first time. My politics are fairly Central. I think we need a change in Ottawa. but I can't stand my local MP, and even if/when he wins in a landslide he won't be a useful voice for our community in parliament

Hakan · 01-17-2006, 02:04 PM

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Those Germans sure got a good system going, extremely highly educated workforce who can't find jobs cause the government completely taxes the incentive out of having a business.

I can understand a liberal vote or green, but NDP, geezus.

Way to show your ignorance on the platforms.

Canada seems to be doing pretty well right now under our current tax structure. The NDP has pledged not to change that structure in their platform. I just don't get the hatred and myopia for the NDP out west. The greens propose to tax businesses even more though pollution taxes, the NDP doesn't even mention that in their platform.

Once again I'd rather have social programs for the poor than tax cuts for the rich when the present tax structure makes this country one of the richest and most productive in the world.

They seem to be doing pretty well in Sask.

habsfan1984 · 01-17-2006, 02:35 PM

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Those Germans sure got a good system going, extremely highly educated workforce who can't find jobs cause the government completely taxes the incentive out of having a business.

That was a joke right?

I work for a company called Terex Mining (German based). I talk to Germans everyday. I know exactly how and what their everyday lives consist of, and let me tell you....you WISH you were German right now my friend.

They have a great transportation industry (they use a C-Train but faster), which goes to every single little dick town in Germany which greatly reduces pollution.

Recycle bins are a must, you are frowned upon if you throw your paper in a waste basket.

The way they treat their Black Forest is amazing. They do it the right way...the natural way. They actually let the trees grow and never over-exploit their resources.

The people I know their all seem to have great high paying jobs and no complaints. The whole country shares the sense of, "earth first."

I would rather have that reputation for my country rather then the reputation which was recently stated about Canada which is, "Canada is growteskly overweight."

That's disgusting, fat people in Canada are the exact metaphor for where our country is headed.........maybe we should all take a lesson from our German friends.

habsfan1984 · 01-17-2006, 02:38 PM

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Once again I'd rather have social programs for the poor than tax cuts for the rich when the present tax structure makes this country one of the richest and most productive in the world.

That's exactly it!

habernac · 01-17-2006, 02:46 PM

They seem to be doing pretty well in Sask.

Including the half of the province that moved to Alberta?

Cowperson · 01-17-2006, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hakan

They seem to be doing pretty well in Sask.

If Saskatchewan is a utopia, then why is everyone leaving?

http://www12.statcan.ca/english/cens...ion/mob/sk.cfm

Cowperson

Zarathustra · 01-17-2006, 02:47 PM

As a poster mentioned earlier in the thread, Alberta voters, especially those who vote for Anders, have no right to call Ontarians sheep. Anybody who calls Nelson Mandela a "communist and terrorist" should not hold any position of insignificant power, let alone a member of the federal government.

calculoso · 01-17-2006, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by evman150

It's even more bizarre considering our MP for the last decade+ was the United Nations environment guy.

And that's the thinking that I don't understand. He's had the last decade+ (from your numbers) to clean things up and/or change them, and nothing has happened, yet he continues to be voted for? Where is the incentive for change?

Hakan · 01-17-2006, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowperson

If Saskatchewan is a utopia, then why is everyone leaving?

http://www12.statcan.ca/english/cens...ion/mob/sk.cfm

Cowperson

Are you saying that Sask's fiscal policies are responsible for Alberta sitting on the second largest oil field in the world thus offering far better employment opportunities than building farm equipment and growing wheat?

Hakan · 01-17-2006, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by calculoso

And that's the thinking that I don't understand. He's had the last decade+ (from your numbers) to clean things up and/or change them, and nothing has happened, yet he continues to be voted for? Where is the incentive for change?

Waste management is a municipal thus Provincial jurisdiction, little you can do as a federal MP if the province doesn't want to do anything about it.

Vulcan · 01-17-2006, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowperson

If Saskatchewan is a utopia, then why is everyone leaving?

http://www12.statcan.ca/english/cens...ion/mob/sk.cfm

Cowperson

Well didn't their last non NDP govt. end up with half of them in jail for corruption.

Shawnski · 01-17-2006, 03:19 PM

Tell them you were talking to fotze about this.

I concur...

kermitology · 01-17-2006, 03:38 PM

I'm in a pickle.. refuse to vote for Anders, don't want to vote Liberal, still undecided.

Cowperson · 01-17-2006, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hakan

Are you saying that Sask's fiscal policies are responsible for Alberta sitting on the second largest oil field in the world thus offering far better employment opportunities than building farm equipment and growing wheat?

If you'd bothered to read the link, you'd know that 56% of Saskatchewan emigrants went to Alberta. The other half went elsewhere, a good many of them between 15 and 29 years of age. Any explanation for the other half running like hell into nowhereville?

Saskatchewan also has oil, uranium, potash and forestry. What's the problem?

Here's some comments from people, most of whom aren't fans, after another popular NDP budget in 2004:

http://www.cbc.ca/sask/features/SASK...feedback2.html

What's all that about cutting money to education and health?

They build farm equipment in Saskatchewan? Why would "they" do that with non-competitive corporate tax rates? Saskatchewan private company tax rates, I think, are the highest in the country and sharply higher than Alberta's.

Of the "major" provinces, I believe only Manitoba and Quebec have higher personal tax rates.

Well didn't their last non NDP govt. end up with half of them in jail for corruption.

Sort of like Glen Clark of the NDP in BC. And what happened with Mike Harcourt's government in that province?

Corruption really has friends in all parties. The NDP are just as susceptible as any.

By the way, I'm busy and might not be able to reply to the inevitable attack for awhile.

Cowperson

TheCommodoreAfro · 01-17-2006, 03:39 PM

Not voting, as I live overseas and they never, ever, let us know how we can go about casting a ballot.

ken0042 · 01-17-2006, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCommodoreAfro

Not voting, as I live overseas and they never, ever, let us know how we can go about casting a ballot.

Dude, it took me all of 90 seconds to find it on elections.ca
http://www.elections.ca/content.asp?...=false#voting9

I'm not sure what your expectations were for them to let you know.

Hakan · 01-17-2006, 03:46 PM

Glen Clark was exonerated of any wrong doing and didn't serve a minute of jail time. (Meanwhile the provincial Liberals in BC are still being investigated by the RCMP allegedly over the slimey below-market price sale of BC Rail)

But you're right all political parties have some level of corruption. It just seems that left wing parties are tarred and feathered for the minutest things (building a deck) while when you conspire to sell a crown corp or offer favourable real estate deals and low interest loans from provincial banks (van der Zalm) you get forgotten about.

But really, do you really think the NDP government is the reason why everyone is leaving? Why do they keep getting voted in?