Could a wild gorilla appreciate when a human researcher comes to observe it? I think that it may be same thing IF these are extra-terrestials, if they have 102% of the genes we have (like a chimp has 98% of ours) they could be just as difficult for us to understand as we would be to a gorilla. Crap analogy I know but I am in a rush...
Also, with phenomenon like quantum entanglement and dark matter I don't think we should get too hung up physical 'absolutes' like the speed of light as an absolute barrier. We know very little about the physics that govern the Universe...at least in terms of how it all works and how to utilize these principles to our advantage.
I personally think this is bogus video (too easy to fake and really everyone looks too calm even for Brits)
...However by my way of thinking unless 100% of all 'UFO' footage/evidence is bogus or of terrestial phenomena then it really is just a matter of time before some irrefutable evidence is collected.
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Here's the synopsis of a very cool book I read a couple summers ago, Inner Paths to Outer Space
"For thousands of years, voyagers of inner space--spiritual seekers, shamans, and psychoactive drug users--have returned from their inner imaginal travels reporting encounters with alien intelligences. Inner Paths to Outer Space presents an innovative examination of how we can reach these other dimensions of existence and contact otherworldly beings. Based on their more than 60 combined years of research into the function of the brain, the authors reveal how psychoactive substances such as DMT allow the brain to bypass our five basic senses to unlock a multidimensional realm of existence where otherworldly communication occurs. They contend that our centuries-old search for alien life-forms has been misdirected and that the alien worlds reflected in visionary science fiction actually mirror the inner space world of our minds. The authors show that these “alien” worlds encountered through altered states of human awareness, either through the use of psychedelics or other methods, possess a sense of reality as great as, or greater than, those of the ordinary awareness perceived by our five senses."
I'm pretty sure there is life out there somewhere, and perhaps even intelligent life out there, but I doubt it's ever visited us. Or will ever visit us.
As Thor said, the universe is frickin massive. For a race to be able to find us, they'd most likely have to be able to find a way around that pesky speed of light dilemna, like bending space or something along those lines that we have imagined or haven't imagined.
If they could do that, they could find out so many other things, like the origin of the universe, of time itself, the origins of life, the answers to all sorts of important scientific and philosophical (if philosophy has even retained any importance to them) questions.
Why on earth (no pun intended) would they be interested in us?
As well, it is believed the universe is closer to its end than it's beginning. If we haven't crossed paths by now, it's likely we never will. It could be the distances or sheer space are impossible to bridge, or that most races hit some sort of extinction event (either natural, cosmic, or self created) before they are able to get to the point technologically where they could find other races.
Shoot, if you look at the way our technology has increased exponentially, compared to how long it took to evolve a species (us) that could create technology, we're just a hairs length away from being the species that discovers others, rather than the one that gets discovered. Yet, within the frame of our short lifespans, and the dangers we have in the future, it's hard to see us doing that anytime soon if at all.
And by this I mean discovering intelligent life, a world or society or race of intelligent beings, not microbes or lichen, or something like that. I think it's entirely possible we may find something like that soon, or proof of it. We're pretty close to that, and it may happen in our lifetime. But as for an intelligent race...
Lastly, like CC said, it's entirely possible that they are forms of light or energy and have been around us the entire time, as unaware of us as we are of them. They could be smaller than the smallest particles we know of, or perhaps our entire universe is contained within them. They could be so different from us, the question of contact wouldn't even be an appropriate question.
I don't think we have ever been visited, and sadly, I don't think we ever will be.
Why on earth (no pun intended) would they be interested in us?
Because after quantifying most of the phenomena in the known universe, the self-aware, chaotic monkeys on earth are probably the most interesting thing left.
UFO enthusiasts admit the truth may not be out there after all
Declining numbers of “flying saucer” sightings and failure to establish proof of alien existence has led UFO enthusiasts to admit they might not exist after all.
Dozens of groups interested in the flying saucers and other unidentified craft have already closed because of lack of interest and next week one of the country’s foremost organisations involved in UFO research is holding a conference to discuss whether the subject has any future.
Dave Wood, chairman of the Association for the Scientific Study of Anomalous Phenomena (Assap), said the meeting had been called to address the crisis in the subject and see if UFOs were a thing of the past.
“It is certainly a possibility that in ten years time, it will be a dead subject,” he added.
“We look at these things on the balance of probabilities and this area of study has been ongoing for many decades.
“The lack of compelling evidence beyond the pure anecdotal suggests that on the balance of probabilities that nothing is out there.
“I think that any UFO researcher would tell you that 98 per cent of sightings that happen are very easily explainable. One of the conclusions to draw from that is that perhaps there isn’t anything there. The days of compelling eyewitness sightings seem to be over.”
David Clark, a Sheffield Hallam University academic and the UFO adviser to the National Archives, said: “The subject is dead in that no one is seeing anything evidential.
“Look at all the people who now have personal cameras. If there was something flying around that was a structured object from somewhere else, you would have thought that someone would have come up with some convincing footage by now – but they haven’t.
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