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Hakan · 01-06-2006, 04:35 PM

Size of rallies is completely irrelevant. It's like who has the most signs out.

The 'success' of a rally is just the ability of the party's local riding association to mobilize it's card carrying supporters.

RougeUnderoos · 01-06-2006, 04:38 PM

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I wouldn't be too upset with a Conservative minority. They would handle the government with velvet gloves until the next election to hopefully get a majority. I'm scared of the majority. Call me whatever but I just don't jibe with tax cuts for the rich and service cuts for the poor. That's bee Harper's M.O. since he was head of the shadowy NCC group. If you read up on previous stuff he was associated with under the NCC it's pretty damn scary: hard right economic policies.

There is that word again. SCARY. What, did you read something he once said and you actually believe he meant it? Typical fearmongering. Just because he says he's a social conservative, a fiscal hard-righter, all that stuff, I don't think it's fair to hold him to it.

transplant99 · 01-06-2006, 04:45 PM

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There is that word again. SCARY.

I thought was merely a manufactured word, used as an excuse by the Conservatives?

Hakan · 01-06-2006, 04:47 PM

Making sense is fun.

RougeUnderoos · 01-06-2006, 05:14 PM

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Making sense is fun.

I think this is aimed at me. It was a joke (and a bad one at that), about the typical reaction (in here) to the suggestion that Harper might be "hard-right" anything is usually met with "that's just fearmongering", even if it's true.

HOZ · 01-06-2006, 08:07 PM

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Wow. Cause that isn't right biased at all.

Is the guy that runs the site named Tucker Bourque by any chance?

Barf.

No Pierre Bourque. Bais? It is an information site and...That was his scoop. Sheesh

7. Pierre BOURQUE (Canada) (pierre@achilles.net) An Internet writer and consultant, Bourque runs the popular Bourque Newswatch which offers political and news links, some with a Canadian focus, others global. He has also written "Government Online In Canada: The Internet User's Comprehensive Directory" and co-authored "Freenet: Canadian Online Access The Free And Easy Way."

http://www.ojr.org/ojr/workplace/1017967842.php

Coelah · 01-06-2006, 08:17 PM

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Heres my scoop...for the first time in years I too think the Cons will win a majority...yep you heard that right here...first!

I don't know. I read somewhere that there's close to 30% undecided right now. It looks good for the conservatives right now, but I think when push comes to shove, those undecided Ontario voters are going to look at a guy like Stockwell Day who still has influence in the party and put that X beside liberal.

The conservatives have toned down their right wing policies bringing them towards the center, but there are too many people who are suspicious of their refusal to purge the party of the evangelicals.

I think it's going to be another liberal minority government.

evman150 · 01-06-2006, 08:48 PM

I didn't actually think his first name was Tucker. I was making a joke, which obviously went right through one side of your mullet and out the other.

I really don't care who this right wing zealot is. Just another moron.

Agamemnon · 01-06-2006, 10:15 PM

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Wow... Never thought I'd hear you say Bring back Manning. Set our differences aside for a moment and take a sec to tell me why. Not that I disagree or agree, just wondering... Are you joking...?

Oh, BTW, I responded as soon as I read this. Not sure if you've already answered this in a later post.

No Joke. I heartily prefer Manning to Harper. I even voted for the man, despite hating his party's guts.

Manning has actually shifted somewhat to Green policies and ideas. Just like me

Thats why I like him. I'm no raging Communist that thinks the NDP are the Left's answer. I prefer 'smart-left' as opposed to 'dumb-left', and thats what I think the difference between the Greens and NDP is. As far as I'm concerned (and I'm in the ultra-minority), I see the Greens as the answer to most Canadian's 'voting dilemma'. Many, many people have said to me "I'm socially liberal, but fiscally conservative". I find a lot of these concepts come to fruition in the Green platform.

Though there are serious issues w/ the Green Party currently; mostly that half of them are eco-nuts who believe humans should die before animals/plants (exaggeration, but with enough truth to be a significant problem imo). But if you check out some of their economic stuff, I think they're headed in the right direction, with things like Full Cost Accounting and Cradle 2 Cradle Manufacturing.

But that's just my opinion on the matter. I can't say I've extensively researched the NDP platform as I have the Green.

4X4 · 01-06-2006, 11:55 PM

Awesome. There are people in the world that can look past a person's religiousness or lack thereof and straight to how they envision leadership. Good on ya, Ag.

HOZ · 01-07-2006, 12:29 AM

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I didn't actually think his first name was Tucker. I was making a joke, which obviously went right through one side of your mullet and out the other.

I really don't care who this right wing zealot is. Just another moron.

How do you figure that he is a right wing zealot??

The man runs a news site. His own scoop from a Liberal insider that Martin's days are numbered.....makes him a rightwing zealot???

Did you ever think......err.....did you ever scroll down to all his links? Some serious rightwing news sources like MacLeans, CBC, Guardian, Al Jazeera and Le Soleil.

evman150 · 01-07-2006, 12:40 AM

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The man runs a news site. His own scoop from a Liberal insider that Martin's days are numbered.....makes him a rightwing zealot???

YET ANOTHER SCANDAL DOGS MARTIN

RCMP PROBES MEGA-MILLION $$ LIBERAL ****-UP

"A LIBERAL GOVERNMENT PAID A LIBERAL LOBBYIST TO LOBBY THE LIBERAL GOVERNMENT"

COPPS: WHAT IS THAT SMELL ?

CHINESE CANADIANS: MARTIN'S ELECTION-INSPIRED APOLOGY NOT ENOUGH

STRONACH BROTHER IN A PICKLE WITH SPECIAL OLYMPICS

Are you seriously questioning whether this guy is right biased?

Not one article about how Harper is a robot, or how he hates gays, or how he doesn't give a flying fata about the charter of rights and freedoms. Not one article about how the Tories' child care "program" is an absolute joke. No article about Harper wanting to go to war, or about wanting to be Bush's lackey. Nothing. Just a whole ****load of right wing BS. And really, who gives a fata about Belinda's brother?

HOZ · 01-07-2006, 01:26 AM

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YET ANOTHER SCANDAL DOGS MARTIN

RCMP PROBES MEGA-MILLION $$ LIBERAL ****-UP

"A LIBERAL GOVERNMENT PAID A LIBERAL LOBBYIST TO LOBBY THE LIBERAL GOVERNMENT"

COPPS: WHAT IS THAT SMELL ?

CHINESE CANADIANS: MARTIN'S ELECTION-INSPIRED APOLOGY NOT ENOUGH

STRONACH BROTHER IN A PICKLE WITH SPECIAL OLYMPICS

Are you seriously questioning whether this guy is right biased?

Not one article about how Harper is a robot, or how he hates gays, or how he doesn't give a flying fata about the charter of rights and freedoms. Not one article about how the Tories' child care "program" is an absolute joke. No article about Harper wanting to go to war, or about wanting to be Bush's lackey. Nothing. Just a whole ****load of right wing BS. And really, who gives a fata about Belinda's brother?

Those are only a few of the headlines from other news sources for today. Not rightwing BS. Since the scandals and RCMP investigations are headlines all across Canada, and he is following the election closely, that is what is there.

* The first link you mention is the first story on CBC's election page
* Your second link mentioned is for the Globe&Mail
* 3rd one is Piere Poilervre's site (Tory incumbant)
* 4th Copps opinion piece for the Toronto Sun
* 5th Yahoo article
* last is a blog

Not one article about how Harper is a robot, or how he hates gays, or how he doesn't give a flying fata about the charter of rights and freedoms. Not one article about how the Tories' child care "program" is an absolute joke. No article about Harper wanting to go to war, or about wanting to be Bush's lackey.

Maybe you could pull up some headlines that are following these breaking news?

Here is an article from the Toronto Star...that bastion of Tory support

GOOD ADVISERS ARE NOT YES MEN http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...d=970599119419

HOZ · 01-07-2006, 08:38 AM

And this morning's news......

ON THE DEFENSIVERCMP IS MARTIN'S MAIN CAMPAIGN RIVALRCMP PROBES PLAYING INTO HANDS OF OPPOSITION THE JIG IS UP FOR LANDSLIDE ANNIE
USA PROBES GOODALE SCANDAL GOOD GOODALE BUDDY GETS UPPITY
LAYTON'S PITCH FOR A LIBERAL VOTEHOW HARPER FASHIONED HIS LEADTORIES THRILLED WITH SURGE IN QUEBEC
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BIRD FLU SPREADING AMONG HUMANS ?
MOM CATCHES SON WITH AK-47 Thats AK 47 is total right wing stuff......:baby:

transplant99 · 01-07-2006, 08:39 AM

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Not one article about how Harper is a robot,

Because he isn't.

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or how he hates gays,

Because he doesn't.

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or how he doesn't give a flying fata about the charter of rights and freedoms

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Because he does.

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Not one article about how the Tories' child care "program" is an absolute joke.

Because it isn't

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No article about Harper wanting to go to war, or about wanting to be Bush's lackey.

Because he doesn't.

Speaking of fearmongering and being a zealot......

Agamemnon · 01-07-2006, 09:52 AM

Holy smokes, the blinders are being pulled on tight here.

No media outlet anywhre is 'right down the middle'. They all have agendas and leanings. Why is the (poorly produced) Bourqe media the exception that is 'unbiased'?

Take a look at the comments section. Tells a whole lot about who supports the site. Conservatives and conservatives. What's the problem? It seems clear as day...

transplant99 · 01-07-2006, 09:57 AM

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Take a look at the comments section. Tells a whole lot about who supports the site. Conservatives and conservatives. What's the problem? It seems clear as day...

Agreed.

There are leftist sites, rightists sites and complete whacko sites on both sides of the spectrum.

No big deal.

HOZ · 01-07-2006, 10:07 AM

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Holy smokes, the blinders are being pulled on tight here.

No media outlet anywhre is 'right down the middle'. They all have agendas and leanings. Why is the (poorly produced) Bourqe media the exception that is 'unbiased'?

Take a look at the comments section. Tells a whole lot about who supports the site. Conservatives and conservatives. What's the problem? It seems clear as day...

So says the man for the mighty FAR left. We are talking about the threat of instant cavities when reading this guy's PC-sweet-posts!

Comment's section?...............................digging big time......

I think had I not introduced this "information" site reaction from some Ivory Tower / PC people would be different. Hmmmmmmm

Agamemnon · 01-07-2006, 10:17 AM

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So says the man for the mighty FAR left. We are talking about the threat of instant cavities when reading this guy's PC-sweet-posts!

Comment's section?...............................digging big time......

I think had I not introduced this "information" site reaction from some Ivory Tower / PC people would be different. Hmmmmmmm

???

So, I take it you disagree, and believe that this site is not C/conservative friendly, but an unbiased, down-the-middle publication (the first of its kind, to my knowledge)? Despite the fact that nearly all the supporters in the comments section (some of whom are of pretty dubious merit or prestige... like a guy I went to school with who went on to become a former MP's assistant...) are pretty clearly from the Right. I don't know any easier way to discern the political leaning of the media outlet.. other than glancing at the headlines, as previous posters have done.

www.foxnews.com

Just because I just sourced a right-wing media outlet above does not make me right-wing or unbiased. So how does the Bourqe site sourcing right/left papers have anything to do with it's own (obvious) political bent.

I also don't get what's wrong with admitting the site has a clear right-wing bias? Are you embarrassed by the right-wing? Is this paper? It doesn't seem to be, why would you?

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I think had I not introduced this "information" site reaction from some Ivory Tower / PC people would be different. Hmmmmmmm

I haven't attacked one peice of information you've brought up in this thread. You're a drowning man thrashing about.

Hakan · 01-07-2006, 11:56 AM

The assertion that Bourque is unbiased is completely ludicrous. It takes reading his page a grand total of one week to figure that out. He hates the Liberals and the NDP.

HOZ you should learn how to pick your spots better. Because when you argue points that are clearly at odds with what you are trying to say you ruin your credibility for everything you say thereafter.