Salvation: Are You Ready?

[SeeBass]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

But doesn't it boring with only one book? And that book commands them to get other people interested in that book.

True, it would get boring but doesn't it seem that the book must come in so many different versions cause it sure doesn't sound like the one I read.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by SeeBass

There should be some kinda book club for people who read the bible.

They could get together every now and then and talk about it.

You mean, church?

[photon]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

You mean, church?

That's where people get together to listen to someone else talk about the book.

[Yasa]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

You mean, church?

Woah, slow down there preachy...

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by photon

That's where people get together to listen to someone else talk about the book.

Oh, so you mean, bible study?

[photon]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Oh, so you mean, bible study?

That's where everyone gets together and agrees with what the other guy said about the book

[PIMking]

Deuteronomy 23:1
No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord.

Ezekiel 23:19-20
Yet she increased her prostitution, remembering the days of her youth when she engaged in prostitution in the land of Egypt. She lusted after their genitals – as large as those of donkeys, and their seminal emission was as strong as that of stallions.

Right......

[SeeBass]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

You mean, church?

whoooosh!!!!!

[SeeBass]

I came across this great game next time we start in on a religious thread perhaps we could use this. First Bingo gets salvation

[PIMking]

God's sons come down from Heaven to have sex with Earth women. (Genesis 6: 1, 2-4)
This is kind of especially messed up 'cause of John 3:16. You know, Jesus being God's only son. Oops.

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[SeeBass]

[PIMking]

Deuteronomy 25:11-12
When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets:

Then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her.

Genesis 22:1-18 - Ritual sacrifice as requested by God
Exodus 13:2 - Ritual sacrifice of first-borns as demanded by God
Judges 11:29-42 - Ritual sacrifice of a man's daughter to appease God
1 Kings 13:1-2 - Ritual sacrifice of pagan priests for God
Judges 21:10-24 - The rape, murder, and pillage of a town in the name of God
Deuteronomy 20:10-14 - God allowing his followers to keep women and livestock for their fancy of any who they conquer
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 - If you rape someone, pay their dad 50pieces of silver and it's ok.
Deuteronomy 23:23-24 - And if you should be raped, expect to be stoned to death for being a harlot.
2 Samuel 12:11-14 - God takes David's wives and commands his neighbours to rape them. Oh and kills his baby while he's at it. Thanks God.
Exodus 21:7-11 - Women as sex slaves and God's laws governing their re-selling.
Deuteronomy 13:13-19 - If one person in a town should worship another god? Burn the entire place to the ground
Deuteronomy 22:20-21 - Ladies, if you're not a virgin on your wedding night, the Lord says you must be killed.
Romans 1:24-32 - Lesbians and gay men must die. So sayeth the Lord.

This book and religion seems even more ######ed after you read crap like this, it's almost comical how the blind sheep will follow one off the edge of a cliff.

Let me ask you this; Do you think OJ killed his ex wife? Most will say yes but they don't have that exact piece of proof to really pin it on him but common sense (blood in his car, gloves, running from the police) would say he is guilty. Now take that with religion, god knocked up a woman and we're suppose to believe this? Ha organized religion is dumb it causes thousand year wars, millions of jews were killed because of their religion. Yet christian's seem to feel that it is impervious that they have to tell us how great their religion is....

[simmonjam1]

Originally Posted by Scoreface

If someone died in your place, what thought would you have? The penalty has been fully paid, all that is left is to believe, so that you may live. "In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins."

The problem with the Bible is that it is open to interpretation, like your quote above. Thousands of people have died so that I may live in freedom today. 65,000 Canadians in WWI, 45,400 Canadians in WWII. The thoughts I have are of Thanks and appreciation every Nov. 11.


The Bible was assembled by men in 325 AD at the first council of Nicea. Men tried to determine what was or was not the inspired word of God.


For the Salad Bar Christians, I recommend the following web page from back in 2002.
Why Can't I Own A Canadian?

Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

Don't get me wrong, there are some very valuable moral lessons to be learned from the Bible. I have a problem with Christians who take a stance on a literal interpretation of a passage in order to fit their moral views while disregarding the literal interpretations of the more ridiculous passages (aka Salad Bar Christians).

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by PIMking

Deuteronomy 25:11-12
[I]When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets:

Then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her.

Let's just go with NIV here because the good ol' KJV takes awhile to parse.

11 If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, 12 you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity.

So if you ever get into a kerfuffle and your wife tries to save your lame ass by grabbing the other guy's balls, you need to cut off her hand!

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Let's just go with NIV here because the good ol' KJV takes awhile to parse.

11 If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, 12 you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity.

So if you ever get into a kerfuffle and your wife tries to save your lame ass by grabbing the other guy's balls, you need to cut off her hand!

Religion is fun!

[Hack&Lube]

A comprehensive reading of the Bible just shows what it really is. It's a cultural history of a band of people in the near east and their oral traditions and myths. It's the use of religion to enforce societal rules and a way to try to explain why calamities (enslavement in Egypt, famine, Babylonian exile, etc.) happen in furtherance of cognitive dissonance. Everything has to happen for a reason and impactful moments of history for that tribe are preserved in cultural memory (like a regional flooding disaster) and written down after being passed down orally for centuries. Often these writings were done for political purposes, or later edited for political or social reasons to enforce a belief or behavior, laws, or historical truthiness that certain powerful people desired.

The New Testament is the same. It's the founding myth of a religion that began as a small local cult during Roman occupation. It was written down and assembled by various writers almost 100 years after the actual events from oral traditions. Christ was interpreted as the fulfillment of ancient prophesy and the religion persevered and eventually engulfed the entire empire. The Gospels were written with different motivations and audiences and many of the Pauline letters have dubious authorship. An actual canon that became the modern Bible was not assembled until the 3rd century while men with dark ages education, dark ages political motivations, and dark ages moral reasoning decided which elements to keep and which elements to throw out as apocrypha. As an example of the typical thinking of the time, one of the most important and hard-fought debates at the council was whether or not Adam had a belly-button because logically if he had no earthly mother, he would have had no umbilical cord.

Both Islam and Christianity are absolutely startling in how such small movements, basically two tiny cults (Islam also usurped many of the iconography and practices of the pre-Islamic religions in the region) managed to conquer entire empires and change the face of the world for thousands of years and will be with us for a much longer time.

Sometimes I wish other ancient religions had survived to give us more variety in the world. The ancient Norse religions and Mithraic Mysteries have always fascinated me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraic_mysteries

[Rockin' Flames]

Originally Posted by jeffh

Um scoreface, I've read some really good posts on this thread and yet to see another one from the creator himself. You have a choice and the freewill to respond. What happened?

Not everyone spends every waking minute on these boards so just relax. Secondly from my reading of the comments there have been some thought out ones and there have been some ones that are...well lets just say uncalled for (aka sarcastic and somewhat mean). From my point of view I wouldn't blame scoreface for not continuing to post in this thread knowing that he's going to be attacked by certain people no matter what he posts.

[THE SCUD]

I am hopeful that Scoreface is out find Allah, so that he can repent his sins and join the islamic faith, because I KNOW that islam is the one true faith, and I hope that scoreface realizes this and accepts Allah*. Redemption for scoreface can only come in the acceptance of Allah...or Allen. He's a pretty good guy too, I really liked Tool Time.


*Insert god of your choice here.

[Young-Sneezy]

Instead of going to church, I'm just going to come here for Sunday sermons.

[Yasa]

Originally Posted by Young-Sneezy

Instead of going to church, I'm just going to come here for Sunday sermons.

We could call this place The Church of CP. It speaks the most truth of any other bible interpretation. All other opinions are wrong.