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Old 05-14-2011, 10:31 AM   #61
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1844 - William Miller predicted Christ would return between March 21, 1843 and March 21, 1844, then revised his prediction, claiming to have miscalculated Scripture, to October 22, 1844. The realization that the predictions were incorrect resulted in a Great Disappointment. Miller's theology gave rise to the Advent movement. The Baha'is believe that Christ did return as Miller predicted in 1844, with the advent of The Báb, and numerous Miller-like prophetic predictions from many religions are given in William Sears book, Thief in The Night.[56]
1914[57], 1918[58], 1925[59], 1942[60] and 1975[61] - Dates set for the end by the Jehovah's Witnesses
1981 - Chuck Smith predicted that Jesus would probably return by 1981.[62]
1988 - Publication of 88 Reasons why the Rapture is in 1988, by Edgar C. Whisenant.
1989 - Publication of The final shout: Rapture report 1989, by Edgar Whisenant. More predictions by this author appeared for 1992, 1995, and other years.
1992 - Korean group "Mission for the Coming Days" predicted October 28, 1992 as the date for the rapture.[63]
1993 - Seven years before the year 2000. The rapture would have to start to allow for seven years of the Tribulation before the Return in 2000. Multiple predictions.
1994 - Pastor John Hinkle of Christ Church in Los Angeles predicted June 9, 1994. Radio evangelist Harold Camping predicted September 6th, 1994.[64]
2011 - Harold Camping's revised prediction has May 21, 2011 as the date of the rapture.[65][66]
2060 - Sir Isaac Newton proposed, based upon his calculations using figures from the book of Daniel, that the Apocalypse could happen no earlier than 2060.[67][68
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Yah but, in fairness how many times have people predicted the Cunucks to win the cup? And they have only been around 30 years.
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Newfoundland is 3.5 hours ahead of us...

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CB wasn't there predictions of the rapture done in very early bible times?
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CB wasn't there predictions of the rapture done in very early bible times?
You mean 1st century Christianity? Early Bible times is like...6000 years ago dude!

IIRC, many of the early Church and some writers of the new testament (or those that passed it along by word of mouth) probably believed that Christ would return in their lifetimes much as the original Jehovah's witness' believed that Christ would return within the lifetimes of the original believers (and the date constantly had to be changed as that generation died out).

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of...Academic_views
"The acceptance of Revelation into the canon is itself the result of a historical process, essentially no different from the career of other texts. The eventual exclusion of other contemporary apocalyptic literature from the canon may throw light on the unfolding historical processes of what was officially considered orthodox, what was heterodox, what was even heretical. Interpretation of meanings and imagery are anchored in what the historical author intended and what his contemporary audience inferred; a message to Christians not to assimilate into the Roman imperial culture was John's central message"

It always astounds me how much material contemporary to the canonical Biblical scriptures was thrown out and what was kept in and becomes such a fundamental, literalist truth to so many. The Bible as we know it is really a collection of documents chosen by several papal councils, using Dark Ages philosophy, knowledge, and cultural/political motivations to choose what they wanted in and wanted out.

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Eschatology is the phenomenon and study of all the doomsday scenarios in various religions and human cultures or academically, it could just be whatever the end is for the human race.

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Jerusalem is 9 hours ahead of us.
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CB wasn't there predictions of the rapture done in very early bible times?
Yes since the first century. Actually the Jews are still waiting for the first coming of the Messiah. So their were not doubt many jewish predictions before the first century.
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Crap...forgot about this and realized we had a dinner party to go to. Maybe we can make it a themed dinner now...all hot and spicy food!
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Yes since the first century. Actually the Jews are still waiting for the first coming of the Messiah. So their were not doubt many jewish predictions before the first century.
Muslims are waiting for the Mahdi, Shia Islam is waiting for the hidden imam, and Buddists are waiting for Maitreya. The Aztecs were waiting for Quetzalcoatl to come back (look what that got them!) and the Asiatic Cargo Cults are waiting for their god - Prince Phillip to return. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philip_Movement

And of course Christians are waiting for Christ to return (again! that's twice now! come on!)

Humans sure think alike...
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Crap...forgot about this and realized we had a dinner party to go to. Maybe we can make it a themed dinner now...all hot and spicy food!
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I know I read this here before but can't find the thread it was associated with.

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...=101109&page=4

The one you started like four months ago? =|

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Newfoundland is 3.5 hours ahead of us...

Hopefully someone calls to let us know what is happening....
I love these end of the world schemes. Well seeing as how Japan is currently 15 hours ahead of Canada, I'll give everyone living in Canada a heads up on CP if s**t starts to hit the fan on that day. I'm not sure if the apocalypse follows international timezones, but if so we'll know before you. Should give you some time to prepare for the horsemen, or holy consuming fire from the heavens, or whatever it may be.
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You mean 1st century Christianity? Early Bible times is like...6000 years ago dude!

IIRC, many of the early Church and some writers of the new testament (or those that passed it along by word of mouth) probably believed that Christ would return in their lifetimes much as the original Jehovah's witness' believed that Christ would return within the lifetimes of the original believers (and the date constantly had to be changed as that generation died out).

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"The acceptance of Revelation into the canon is itself the result of a historical process, essentially no different from the career of other texts. The eventual exclusion of other contemporary apocalyptic literature from the canon may throw light on the unfolding historical processes of what was officially considered orthodox, what was heterodox, what was even heretical. Interpretation of meanings and imagery are anchored in what the historical author intended and what his contemporary audience inferred; a message to Christians not to assimilate into the Roman imperial culture was John's central message"

It always astounds me how much material contemporary to the canonical Biblical scriptures was thrown out and what was kept in and becomes such a fundamental, literalist truth to so many. The Bible as we know it is really a collection of documents chosen by several papal councils, using Dark Ages philosophy, knowledge, and cultural/political motivations to choose what they wanted in and wanted out.
I don't believe the churches left the first century with many doubts about the Canon. Churches were independant of each other. They were still in the process of collecting the letters that make up the new Testament and in that process did collect some fakes, as well as some non-inspired writings. This doesn't mean they didn't have a canon. It means every church had its own canon of what they knew to be inspired.

We are talking about a time when many of these church members were dying for their faith. They would not have taken any questions about what they were dying for lightly. As times got better and christianity became legalized or at least tollerated churches began comparing Canons. This would have included dialogue about what some of the early churches knew about the origin of these various letters.

Somewhere along the way and on more than one occasion lingering questions were brought up at conferences and as a group these churches would recognize one particular canon. If you look at the participants you will see that even these were regional in scope at best. My point being that there always existed a canon. Every church had one. Some had included letters that were later discovered to be non-inspired or fakes. Others, and this was more often the case, were missing letters simply because they had never reached them. For these letters to be accepted these churches wanted to know their history and confirm their authenticity.
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My take on stuff like this is always one of worry. Not so much because I believe what is being preached (whole other can of worms for me), but because of what it says about the person and those around them.

I've known one person who did a lot of "analysis" of the Bible for this kind of result. Finding numbers that had no correlation and correlating them in this manner, that as the man interviewed in the CBC article put it is irresponsible, to get the result they wanted.

He started doing this because while he was taking the meds he was on, apparently missed a dose or something and got something from the Bible that said he had to do this, that it was his job in life. He quit his job, and was forced to move in with my mom's friend who was his ex-wife since he no longer had means to sustain himself.

Now I am not saying all people who do this sort of thing are mentally unstable, but I think it certainly is something to look at and worry about. These people are not all there and could end up harming themselves or those around them if they believe they are to be one of the saved and the day comes and they are still there. This guy particularly worries me because he obviously believes what he's preaching. There's no grab for money.
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