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		|  05-11-2011, 08:49 PM | #21 |  
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					Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos  He meant "senate". There is a typo. |  
And there was me thinking it was the Buckeyes latest wideout! 
  
Ohio Seneta, 6' 5" 235 lbs
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		|  05-11-2011, 09:16 PM | #22 |  
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					Originally Posted by evman150  I can't even fathom a world where I felt I needed to carry around a gun. |  
I used to think that way, now I'm seriously considering the need for a gun.  Granted I'm in Texas and right on the Mexican border but when I read stuff like this in the local paper  it has me thinking maybe I should get one.
 
"We see it almost on a daily basis along the border, the carjackings,  the kidnappings, the home invasions, the extortion, the shootings from  officers in Mexico into the United States,” Gonzalez said. “Some of the  politicians will disagree with me about spillover violence. Yes, we do  have spillover violence.”
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		|  05-11-2011, 09:23 PM | #23 |  
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			Freedom at it's finest..... 
Also, Texas passed a bill to allow concealed handguns in public universities.
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...c-universities 
"The holders of concealed handgun licences are set to be allowed to carry weapons into public college buildings and classrooms in Texas, after Republicans in the state senate approved the measure as part of a universities spending bill."
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		|  05-11-2011, 09:27 PM | #24 |  
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					Originally Posted by Rockin' Flames  I used to think that way, now I'm seriously considering the need for a gun. Granted I'm in Texas and right on the Mexican border but when I read stuff like this in the local paper  it has me thinking maybe I should get one.
  
"We see it almost on a daily basis along the border, the carjackings, the kidnappings, the home invasions, the extortion, the shootings from officers in Mexico into the United States,” Gonzalez said. “Some of the politicians will disagree with me about spillover violence. Yes, we do have spillover violence.” |  
Several ranchers in Arizona have been murdered by illegal Mexican drug runners as well.......it is terribly violent down there. 
  
I don't think it gets near the attention it deserves. It is literally safer to live in Afghanistan than a Mexican border town.
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		|  05-11-2011, 09:27 PM | #25 |  
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			Just imagine the possibilities for new, fun fan celebrations in the stands. yeeha!
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		|  05-11-2011, 09:50 PM | #26 |  
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					Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos    
Good idea.
  
"Hey, let's let these guys bring guns to the football game, long as they promise not to drink." |  
I remember when they got screwd on a call 10ish years ago and they threw thousands of plastic beer bottles on the field. At least this bill will help keep the refs honest.    |  
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		|  05-11-2011, 09:51 PM | #27 |  
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			America - Dumber by the day.
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		|  05-11-2011, 10:04 PM | #28 |  
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					Originally Posted by Rockin' Flames  I used to think that way, now I'm seriously considering the need for a gun. Granted I'm in Texas and right on the Mexican border but when I read stuff like this in the local paper  it has me thinking maybe I should get one.
  
"We see it almost on a daily basis along the border, the carjackings, the kidnappings, the home invasions, the extortion, the shootings from officers in Mexico into the United States,” Gonzalez said. “Some of the politicians will disagree with me about spillover violence. Yes, we do have spillover violence.” |  
Not sure how having a gun helps you with random bullets traveling the half mile plus from across the border, I suppose you could just randomly shoot back at the general direction of Mexico.
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		|  05-11-2011, 10:19 PM | #29 |  
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					Originally Posted by afc wimbledon  Not sure how having a gun helps you with random bullets traveling the half mile plus from across the border, I suppose you could just randomly shoot back at the general direction of Mexico. |  
That's not what spillover violence means.
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		|  05-11-2011, 10:21 PM | #30 |  
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					Originally Posted by Red Ice Player  A, o, way to go ohio....... |  But my city was gone
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		|  05-11-2011, 10:42 PM | #31 |  
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					Originally Posted by theinfinitejar  That's not what spillover violence means. |  
Don't mind him. He seems to think that all violence is just drunken shenanigans that can only escalate into a shoving match.
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		|  05-11-2011, 10:56 PM | #32 |  
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					Originally Posted by Ark2  Don't mind him. He seems to think that all violence is just drunken shenanigans that can only escalate into a shoving match. |  
Ironically I am likely the only person here that knows over 40 murderers rapists and skinners!
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		|  05-11-2011, 10:56 PM | #33 |  
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					Originally Posted by theinfinitejar  That's not what spillover violence means. |  
True, but that was what the article was about.
  
And beyond that a gun won't do a thing to protect you except in incrediably limited circumstances, chances are if you are walking to your car with a bag of groceries or the like when some crack head decides to rob you you won't have your gun anywhere near you.
  
I have nothing against gun ownership actually, and was married into a gun toting NRA membered family for years and went hunting and enjoyed it. I just think the idea that the average schmoe has the luck, judgement, opportunity and plain balls to protect themselves with a gun is inane. Mostly a gun will not help you one bit, and statistically will increase the chances you or a loved one gets hurt.
  
To use a slightly off base example, every adult male in Bin Laden's house was armed and knew how to use a gun, all had likely had some combat experience and some training, all of them had guns around them, Osama had 2 in the room with him when he was killed. Apparently only one of them even got any rounds off, most of them where stunned by the suprise of it all.
		 
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		|  05-11-2011, 11:06 PM | #34 |  
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					Originally Posted by afc wimbledon  Ironically I am likely the only person here that knows over 40 murderers rapists and skinners! |  
I know 41.  Swish.
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		|  05-11-2011, 11:10 PM | #35 |  
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					Originally Posted by Yasa  I know 41. Swish. |  
I assume you work federal then. Edmonton?
		 
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		|  05-11-2011, 11:13 PM | #36 |  
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					Originally Posted by afc wimbledon  I assume you work federal then. |  
Nope, just a liar.
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		|  05-11-2011, 11:15 PM | #37 |  
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					Originally Posted by Yasa  Nope, just a liar. |  
And there was me looking foward to exchanging 'weirdest #### you ever saw on a unit' stories.
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		|  05-11-2011, 11:17 PM | #38 |  
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					Originally Posted by afc wimbledon  And there was me looking foward to exchanging 'weirdest #### you ever saw on a unit' stories. |  
Sorry to disappoint.  I can regail you with some ambulance stories though.  Although, that would completely derail the thread.
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		|  05-12-2011, 12:26 AM | #39 |  
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		|  05-12-2011, 10:51 PM | #40 |  
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					Originally Posted by alan21  Well it'll still be safe at Bluejackets games. If someone shoots, it'll be at an empty seat. |  
To my knowledge, the last person to die at a Blue Jackets game was struck by an errant puck.
		 
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