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Oilbert · 05-09-2011, 01:06 PM

Just curious, which prospect do you guys see as more of an impact for the flames in the future? Brodie is a puck moving defenseman and reading some scouting reports, he is projected to be an Ian White with more offensive flare. Erixon compares to former Flame Toni Lydman, but watching the WJC, he was the best Swedish defenseman and I think his offensive game is underrated.

Both are great prospects and I see them both getting stints in the NHL next season.

Caged Great · 05-09-2011, 01:08 PM

Erixon ten times out of ten. Erixon might become a #1 D-man, while Brodie is more likely to be a good 3-4 guy at best.

DropIt · 05-09-2011, 01:13 PM

agreed. Erixon by far. Hopefully Brodie can turn out to be a PP producer and give the team a boost offensively. But Erixon is a better all around player and at this time he has to be our #1 prospect in general.

kirant · 05-09-2011, 01:46 PM

Erixon. He gives me mini-Lidstrom vibes because of the way that he manages to calmly control the ice in so many situations. On the other hand Brodie is a good offensive D, but probably won't be any better than a 2nd pairing guy with PP quarterback abilities.

Ring of Fire · 05-09-2011, 02:15 PM

I think Brodie might be in the NHL sooner as an offensive 2nd-3rd pairing PP specialist. Eventually Erixon will be the better NHL defenceman and has potential to be a solid 2-way top pairing defenceman.

Vinny01 · 05-09-2011, 02:29 PM

Erixon no question. I have hopes he develops into a first pairing Dman. Brodie I think will top out as a #4 Dman/pp specialist.

Weiser Wonder · 05-09-2011, 02:34 PM

I say Erixon as well. But, I want to dispel the notion that Brodie is an Ian White type. Brodie's strength is his skating, he's also about average height for an NHLer. Ian White is much smaller and slower, with more toughness. Not very similar players.

bubbsy · 05-09-2011, 02:41 PM

Hopefully, at least one makes the jump to the NHL this season. Though i was pretty disappointed about brent sutter's thoughts on both at the end of the year.

JiriHrdina · 05-09-2011, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bubbsy

Hopefully, at least one makes the jump to the NHL this season. Though i was pretty disappointed about brent sutter's thoughts on both at the end of the year.

If we are thinking of the same comments - I recall there was some confusion over whether Sutter was saying no one is ready to make the jump, or that no forwards were.

VladtheImpaler · 05-09-2011, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

If we are thinking of the same comments - I recall there was some confusion over whether Sutter was saying no one is ready to make the jump, or that no forwards were.

Yes, his comments weren't clear. I guess if Staios and Carson are re-signed, we'll know it's not looking good.

JiriHrdina · 05-09-2011, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Yes, his comments weren't clear. I guess if Staios and Carson are re-signed, we'll know it's not looking good.

Then there's Matt Pelech. Probably his last chance to make the team.

Right now where are we at?

Regehr-Bouw
Gio-Sarich

Then question marks re. whether Pardy/Babchuk/Carson get re-signed.

So it would seem like there is going to be one - perhaps two spots open.

GreenLantern · 05-09-2011, 04:12 PM

What has been holding Pelech back from making the big club? Is it just a lack of roster space? Or is there something in his game that just isn't clicking with the transition?

flambers · 05-09-2011, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Then there's Matt Pelech. Probably his last chance to make the team.

Right now where are we at?

Regehr-Bouw
Gio-Sarich

Then question marks re. whether Pardy/Babchuk/Carson get re-signed.

So it would seem like there is going to be one - perhaps two spots open.

If I recall Pelech contract has expired... Not sure if he is a RFA or UFA...

Another dman to add to the list of players who could be ressigned is "Mikkelson".

VladtheImpaler · 05-09-2011, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Then there's Matt Pelech. Probably his last chance to make the team.

Right now where are we at?

Regehr-Bouw
Gio-Sarich

Then question marks re. whether Pardy/Babchuk/Carson get re-signed.

So it would seem like there is going to be one - perhaps two spots open.

Mikkelson is potentially in play too, being RFA...

Ring of Fire · 05-09-2011, 04:22 PM

I think Carson, Pardy, and Mikkelson all battle for the same role. Carson I think is the best choice as he is the best combination of mobility, puck-moving ability, and physicality of the three.

Brodie (if ready) and Babchuk would be fighting for the sheltered minutes offensive defenceman and PP specialist.

Erixon is the player who can drastically change the look of the Flames defence this fall if he is NHL ready as he is a 2-way defenceman with the defensive awareness and offensive capability to develop into a legitimate top-4 defenceman.

Beerfest · 05-09-2011, 04:24 PM

Ive been hearing great things about Breen and many believe he will be a NHLer.

While I dont expect him to make the team next year, potentially in a year or two he could be 5/6/7 guy on the team or something.

As for Pelech I think hes fallen down the depth chart, imo.
Erixon, Brodie, Breen, Negrin etc are all potentially ahead of him.

Flames Draft Watcher · 05-09-2011, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenLantern

What has been holding Pelech back from making the big club? Is it just a lack of roster space? Or is there something in his game that just isn't clicking with the transition?

Footspeed, mobility, and decision making would be my guess. Breen looked quite a bit ahead of Pelech when I saw them play for the Heat in Calgary. I think people should temper their expectations of Pelech, not sure he'll be anything more than a depth defenseman at best. When a first year pro passes you on the organizational depth charts, it isn't a good sign and from all accounts (Feaster, Playfair, etc) it sounds like Breen has done that. For a supposed stay at home defenseman, Pelech wasn't making the smart, safe play that Regehr usually would. Breen on the other hand was able to move the puck quickly and efficiently out of pressure.

Wouldn't surprise me if Brodie, Erixon and Breen all see the NHL before Pelech, if he ever does step up. Pelech will find it very hard to win a role if we re-sign guys like Mikkelson, Carson and Babchuk.

kirant · 05-09-2011, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Yes, his comments weren't clear. I guess if Staios and Carson are re-signed, we'll know it's not looking good.

Why lump Carson in there though? He's probably the ideal 7th D for a one year contract if Pelech doesn't pan out: Not fancy, keeps it safe, can contribute offensively on occasion, but isn't a liability. Either him or Mikkleson (spelling?) could take the role easily, given that there is no player on Abbotsford other than Pelech really suited for the role (and assuming Brodie will either go to bottom pairing or be sent down for another year).

Oilbert · 05-09-2011, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Weiser Wonder

I say Erixon as well. But, I want to dispel the notion that Brodie is an Ian White type. Brodie's strength is his skating, he's also about average height for an NHLer. Ian White is much smaller and slower, with more toughness. Not very similar players.

Ian White is a top 4 defenseman, one would hope a prospect from the 2nd round can become similar to that. But I understand the comparision is off because of the height differential. Maybe a Braydon Coburn or Tom Gilbert type player?

JiriHrdina · 05-09-2011, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Oilbert

Ian White is a top 4 defenseman, one would hope a prospect from the 2nd round can become similar to that. But I understand the comparision is off because of the height differential. Maybe a Braydon Coburn or Tom Gilbert type player?

Not sure if I'm misunderstanding your post but Brodie isn't a 2nd round pick - he's a 4th rounder.