Led Zeppelin - Rip off artists
Aerosmith - Suck, ripped off Zeppelin
The Rolling Stones - Stopped being a great band in 1970, became parodies of themselves post 1980
The Police (also Sting by himself) - boring
Genesis = The police
The Who - most people can only name songs off of two of their dozens of albums
Chilliwack - Nirvana's unplugged album beats the pants off their entire catalogue
So a guy that killed himself when she was 18 months old is her inspiration?
Born - Nov 23/92
Died - Apr 5/94
Miley's had the longest 15-minutes in history.....
She's a dope, but I don't see why Nirvana couldn't have influenced her. A lot of current artists still credit The Beatles with influencing them.
Look at the kind of crap that was mainstream before Nirvana brought alternative music to the forefront: Michael Bolton, Michael Jackson, etc. Soulless garbage. Nirvana's popularity changed the direction of popular music, so it's not too crazy to think they'd still be influencing artists today, even crappy ones like Miley.
She's a dope, but I don't see why Nirvana couldn't have influenced her. A lot of current artists still credit The Beatles with influencing them.
Look at the kind of crap that was mainstream before Nirvana brought alternative music to the forefront: Michael Bolton, Michael Jackson, etc. Soulless garbage. Nirvana's popularity changed the direction of popular music, so it's not too crazy to think they'd still be influencing artists today, even crappy ones like Miley.
Couldn't you have picked a better example? Really? Michael Jackson? He's one of the best selling and most popular arists ever. I know popularity doesn't equal quality but his music was great.
led zeppelin - rip off artists
aerosmith - suck, ripped off zeppelin
the rolling stones - stopped being a great band in 1970, became parodies of themselves post 1980
the police (also sting by himself) - boring
genesis = the police
the who - most people can only name songs off of two of their dozens of albums
chilliwack - nirvana's unplugged album beats the pants off their entire catalogue
Couldn't you have picked a better example? Really? Michael Jackson? He's one of the best selling and most popular arists ever. I know popularity doesn't equal quality but his music was great.
Look at the kind of crap that was mainstream before Nirvana brought alternative music to the forefront: Michael Bolton, Michael Jackson, etc. Soulless garbage.
Couldn't you have picked a better example? Really? Michael Jackson? He's one of the best selling and most popular arists ever. I know popularity doesn't equal quality but his music was great.
Are you serious? I was saying Nirvana changed the direction of mainstream music. Put yourself in your 1991 shoes and listen to this:
Then this:
And tell me Nirvana didn't change the direction of pop music. You really don't see the difference?
When has Billboard Top 100 been a pop music chart? It has R&B, Rap, Hip-Hop, Rock, Dance, Pop, etc.
"Pop" is a specific genre. It does not simply mean "music that is popular". Michael Jackson didn't switch to grunge and he still remained popular throughout the 90s. Grunge was just a fad among white people who were sick of the glam rock and glam pop of the 80s and wanted to wear flannel and boots.
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I agree, but since I can't split it out of here I guess we're stuck.
Before Cyrus starts "singing" she says that Nirvana's music inspired her to start singing and performing. I wish Kurt Cobain had inspired Miley to kill herself.
I tend to think of Nirvana as an easy accessible jump off point for alternative/grunge.
When I was in junior high and listening to In Utero, it really piqued my interest.
Before Nirvana/Smashing Pumpkins etc...I didn't really actively consume music. I definitely didn't really appreciate any of it. In that sense, I have to give Nirvana credit.
I don't get how some people got so hung up on Nirvana though.
There were plenty of great alternative bands making amazing alt music before Nirvana ever "revolutionized" the sound, and who were on the fringe of pop(ular) music.
I really don't listen to a lot of 90's alternative anymore, but i find that bands like Dinosaur Jr., Sebadoh, Melvins, Pixies etc...have more staying power in my library.
I tend to think of Nirvana as an easy accessible jump off point for alternative/grunge.
When I was in junior high and listening to In Utero, it really piqued my interest.
Before Nirvana/Smashing Pumpkins etc...I didn't really actively consume music. I definitely didn't really appreciate any of it. In that sense, I have to give Nirvana credit.
I don't get how some people got so hung up on Nirvana though.
There were plenty of great alternative bands making amazing alt music before Nirvana ever "revolutionized" the sound, and who were on the fringe of pop(ular) music.
I really don't listen to a lot of 90's alternative anymore, but i find that bands like Dinosaur Jr., Sebadoh, Melvins, Pixies etc...have more staying power in my library.
Until Nirvana, I enjoyed music. Nirvana and the ensuing proliferation of grunge and alternative in the 90s turned me off music completely for several years. Now music is my first love but I still look back at the 90s and cringe.
When has Billboard Top 100 been a pop music chart? It has R&B, Rap, Hip-Hop, Rock, Dance, Pop, etc.
"Pop" is a specific genre. It does not simply mean "music that is popular". Michael Jackson didn't switch to grunge and he still remained popular throughout the 90s. Grunge was just a fad among white people who were sick of the glam rock and glam pop of the 80s and wanted to wear flannel and boots.
Make a new thread.
I would say "Pop" has at least two meanings.
Literally, what is "popular" - your top 40 hits. Ex. Lady Gaga
And as a "sound" - catchy, light, hook-laden music. Ex. XTC
Pop/rock might seem like an overly vague designation -- after all, rock & roll was catchy and melodic long before it was thought of as pop music, and from the early '60s on, nearly all pop reflected the influence of rock & roll in one way or another. But pure pop took a while to become comfortable with rock's insistent backbeat, and it wasn't until the dawn of the '70s -- around the time when rock & roll's first-generation fans were settling into adulthood -- that truly equal pop/rock fusions became the epitome of mainstream music (as opposed to pre-rock vocal pop, which still commanded a sizable adult audience for most of the '60s). Naturally, pop/rock's primary focus was on melody -- as big, catchy, and instantly memorable as possible, whether the song was a rocker, ballad, or midtempo in-betweener. But the other, less immediately apparent aspect of pop/rock was its emphasis on the professional craft of record-making. The songs were tightly constructed, with no wasted space or prolonged detours from the melodic hooks. The production was clean, polished, and bright, making full use of the advances in recording technology (and technique) that had taken place over the course of the '60s. In general, pop/rock was catchy and energetic enough to appeal to younger listeners, but clean and safe enough for adults as well. Pop/rock, however, was not soft rock; it's important to realize -- hard as it may be to imagine today -- that the big hooks, rock instrumentation, and definite backbeat gave pop/rock an energy that would have been too edgy for more conservative listeners who hadn't grown up with rock & roll.
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