Beloved character actor Osama bin Laden, star of TV's "Fox News", dies age 54

[troutman]

Putting Bin Laden through a long drawn out trial would not be in US interests, and possibly only serve to embolden Al Qaeda. Better dead than alive.

[Yasa]

Originally Posted by BigBrodieFan

That's what people said about Bush's war on terror. I remember people on the sides of the roads holding up posters that said 'Against the War= For Saddam'

Always question your assumptions. Believing the government without questioning is downright pathetic.

Questioning the president for sending troops into an unwinnable war for no clear reason or questioning the president for killing their most wanted person. There's a big difference there.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by BigBrodieFan

That's what people said about Bush's war on terror. I remember people on the sides of the roads holding up posters that said 'Against the War= For Saddam'

Always question your assumptions. Believing the government without questioning is downright pathetic.

Please answer this one simple question..

How and who benefits from waiting a week/month/year whatever, to announce the death of the worlds most wanted man?

For there to be a conspiracy, there has to be an endgame for those involved.

What, if anything, makes sense to sit on something this large?

[Kybosh]

Originally Posted by transplant99

i understand where you are coming from, but as I mentioned last night....there hasnt beeen a lot of good news for the USA of late and people have been looking for something to rally around and lift morale. It was just a spontaneous and massive sigh of relief as much as anything else IMO.

It looked to me that it was mostly a crowd in D.C. of University students looking for a good time (it looked like a football tailgate). I'm not criticizing the reactions of the crowd but it felt like an awkward situation from my point of view.

[Yasa]

That's the thing, Transplant. I'm ok with questioning the government. Infact, I encourage it. But why question something like this? There's no motivation for these opposing theories.

[BigBrodieFan]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Well I didn't make the claim that they waited just a week...that was another poster..try and read more carefully.

Also, knowone has claimed that Bin Laden is not dead...

Pakistan has been targeted by drone strikes/special operations on a routine basis. Pakistan people have been protesting this. This is congress people saying this .....pay attention before jumping on the conspiracy theory bandwagon.....

I didn't CLAIM they waited a week. I made a comment that the news was reporting he'd been dead a week.

[SeeBass]

[kdogg]

Originally Posted by FlameOn

I thought there was some IT tech in Pakistan live twittering the whole thing last night when the operation was happening

http://www.popsci.com/technology/art...-assassination

The guy is now posting links to pictures and videos of the hideout from his Twitter account.


Instant fame for this guy.

[Yasa]

Originally Posted by BigBrodieFan

New York last night:

http://www.grandforksherald.com/even...cle/id/202110/

NYC has a metro population of 18 million people and a city population of 8 million, I doubt all of them were on the streets. I don't doubt many of them were celebrating, but it's also not a stretch that many more were sleeping.

[sureLoss]

Coordinates of the complex if you want to look it up 34.169356,73.242539 on google earth or what ever

[BigBrodieFan]

Originally Posted by Yasa

Questioning the president for sending troops into an unwinnable war for no clear reason or questioning the president for killing their most wanted person. There's a big difference there.

Who is questioning the president for killing their most wanted person?? I am saying, I hope he's dead.

[IliketoPuck]

Hey CC, is JTF-2 anywhere close to as bad ass in the scale of things as SEAL Team-6? Or is Team-6 just in its own special category of Jack Bauer ultimate bad ass-ness?

[Yasa]

Originally Posted by BigBrodieFan

Who is questioning the president for killing their most wanted person?? I am saying, I hope he's dead.

Sorry, let me rephrase:

Being skeptical about the president going to war, or being skeptical about the presidents claims that OBL is dead, are very different things.

By saying you "hope" he's dead, shows that you're skeptical. I don't understand why you would be.

[BigBrodieFan]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Please answer this one simple question..

How and who benefits from waiting a week/month/year whatever, to announce the death of the worlds most wanted man?

For there to be a conspiracy, there has to be an endgame for those involved.

What, if anything, makes sense to sit on something this large?

I didn't say there was a conspiracy. I don't KNOW what the motivation is. I am saying, the story sounds pretty fishy to me.

I have questions that will probably never be answered.

Why DID Obama announce what very well could be the news of the century (so far) at 11:35 PM EST? What was the motivation there? Was that just random? If everyone was sleeping, why not just wait until today? Why did he wait over an hour from when the speech was planned to make his announcement?

Why were all the news channels reporting that Bin Laden was in the US and DNA testing had been done?

Where is the proof Bin Laden is dead? We are talking about (arguably) the worst enemy America, the biggest SuperPower in the World, has ever seen, the cause of death and destruction and the cause of hundreds of thousands of lives lost due to the chain of events that occurred after 9-11, and the government is telling me that the mastermind behind it all was shot and thrown to sea a few hours later to honour the Islam tradition?? I say screw the Islam tradition and show all of the people who have been effected by this piece of s**t and show some proof that he's dead.

Personally, I have no theory. I just want some answers, and I am not the type of person to sit back and take the crap that the government always shoves down the throats of the people.

[sa226]

Originally Posted by IliketoPuck

Hey CC, is JTF-2 anywhere close to as bad ass in the scale of things as SEAL Team-6? Or is Team-6 just in its own special category of Jack Bauer ultimate bad ass-ness?

I would also like to know this....

My guess

I would think that in terms of training and abilities JTF2 is as good as any other unit in the world. The separation may come in budget, technology and support network (as alluded to in the posted article)

Also, going by some of the vague reporting done on JTF2, it seems they may be more tied down by laws, bureaucratics and all that nonsense. Whereas US special forces are less constricted. (Patriot Act?)

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by BigBrodieFan

Why DID Obama announce what very well could be the news of the century (so far) at 11:35 PM EST? What was the motivation there?

Get it out before it leaks? Annouce it the minute you have confirmation. The fact that it's this big announcement, makes sense to do it right away.

Originally Posted by BigBrodieFan

Why were all the news channels reporting that Bin Laden was in the US and DNA testing had been done?

bad information, bad sources. pretty simple, they reported a lot of speculation before the actual announcement. not really a big deal.

Originally Posted by BigBrodieFan

Where is the proof Bin Laden is dead? We are talking about (arguably) the worst enemy America, the biggest SuperPower in the World, has ever seen, the cause of death and destruction and the cause of hundreds of thousands of lives lost due to the chain of events that occurred after 9-11, and the government is telling me that the mastermind behind it all was shot and thrown to sea a few hours later to honour the Islam tradition?? I say screw the Islam tradition and show all of the people who have been effected by this piece of s**t and show some proof that he's dead.

Personally, I have no theory. I just want some answers, and I am not the type of person to sit back and take the crap that the government always shoves down the throats of the people.

I am sure proof will be released. cooling down period, don't give your enemy any motivation.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by BigBrodieFan

Why did he wait over an hour from when the speech was planned to make his announcement?

you have never been behind schedule before? Pretty clear the amount of calls Obama had to make before going public, former presidents, world leaders..it took longer than first thought?

[Canada 02]

DNA tests confirm it was Bin Laden; one of his wives also identified the body

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...,2009657.story

[transplant99]

I didn't say there was a conspiracy. I don't KNOW what the motivation is. I am saying, the story sounds pretty fishy to me.

I have questions that will probably never be answered.

OK...I am officially lost. Maybe there IS NO MOTIVATION other than to announce they got the bad guy?

Why DID Obama announce what very well could be the news of the century (so far) at 11:35 PM EST? What was the motivation there? Was that just random? If everyone was sleeping, why not just wait until today? Why did he wait over an hour from when the speech was planned to make his announcement?

Which flies directly into the face of any conspiracy that he wanted to do this just to boost his approval. As for waiting, I would believe that they wanted to make sure 100% that facial recognition technology left no doubt they got the right guy. But again waiting that long meant a smaller audience than would have normally been watching network TV say even 2 hours earlier.

Why were all the news channels reporting that Bin Laden was in the US and DNA testing had been done?

They did?

DNA testing was only confirmed today.

Where is the proof Bin Laden is dead? We are talking about (arguably) the worst enemy America, the biggest SuperPower in the World, has ever seen, the cause of death and destruction and the cause of hundreds of thousands of lives lost due to the chain of events that occurred after 9-11, and the government is telling me that the mastermind behind it all was shot and thrown to sea a few hours later to honour the Islam tradition?? I say screw the Islam tradition and show all of the people who have been effected by this piece of s**t and show some proof that he's dead

Sorry...but they did the right thing by respecting the tradition of over a billion people worldwide.

As for proof...can we talk about that maybe more than 18 hours after the incident?

Personally, I have no theory. I just want some answers, and I am not the type of person to sit back and take the crap that the government always shoves down the throats of the people.

So you ahve already decided this is all crap?

Well then nothing will appease you.

[NuclearFart]

lol look at the Vancouver sun's coverage:

http://www.vancouversun.com/What+hap...771/story.html

The third picture in looks like its taken from the PS3 video game SOCOM4!

hahahah Stupid canucks!