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CaramonLS · 03-29-2011, 09:59 PM

Tons of circumstantial evidence - no doubt in my mind he is convicted.

Claims he "bought" the victim's car for 40$
Writes a "script" about how exactly the murder went down, including details (body in the sewer, luring via POF) that he couldn't have know about.
Images of a man who was previously attacked 2 weeks prior from the garage were in his browser history (which is also detailed in his script).
The whole Dexter thing - which the prosecutor will obviously try to play up (but in reality should have no bearing on the case)
Debit card receipt found at the garage (last 4 digits of his debit card matched) for a drop cloth, which was not used at the "film location", after he claimed he hadn't been to the crime scene.

Basically every piece of evidence aside from a knife in his hand.

Really stupid for committing the murder the way he did - probably would never have been caught if he just picked a random street walker to start with. Fact that guy who was being lured told his friend he went to a garage and discovered a man was there (not a women) - was what really broke the case.

Funny how these cases hinge on 1 small detail. If the guy didn't tell his friend where he was going that night, Twitchell would likely still be a free man.

DuffMan · 03-29-2011, 10:00 PM

This guy is really dumb. He is definitely not one of those intelligent psychopath murderers. Getting caught in the victims car and coming up with the story of buying it from a stranger for $40, is just dumb.

CaptainCrunch · 03-29-2011, 11:06 PM

They used to say that you commit a dozen mistakes when you commit a murder and if you can think of three of them your a genius.

In this day and age of DNA and forensic computer based science its getting harder to get away with murder.

Plus the police never close the unsolved cases anymore.

But this guys crime was ego, he thought that he was something that he wasn't.

Itse · 03-30-2011, 05:27 AM

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I blame television, to me if you're going to imitate a serial killer, imitating a fake one played by a television actor is pretty much as lame as it gets.

The real ones are so much more interesting.

Personally I am simply bored (and occasionally disgusted) of serial killers, real or fictional. "Crazy" just isn't a very interesting reason to kill somebody.

Patrick Bateman was fascinating though, but mostly because American Psycho was about so much more than some sicko killing people for twisted reasons.

yid · 03-30-2011, 06:56 AM

seems off his nut lol

fredr123 · 03-30-2011, 09:02 AM

Holding aside the absurdity of the plot, the way this case is being covered in the media is enthralling. I don't know how many people on CP would actually be interested in sitting through a trial like this, but between all the evidence being uploaded to Scribd, the liveblog on the Edmonton Journal website and the little mini-repository the EJ has created for stories about this trial it's almost like being there.

I wish more high profile cases were covered this way. Ontario and BC are working on allowing cameras in the court room so maybe a few Canadian jurisdictions are only a couple of years from the kind of coverage we had of the OJ Simpson murder trial 16 years ago in the States.

burn_this_city · 03-30-2011, 09:20 AM

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...598/story.html

CaramonLS · 03-30-2011, 11:24 AM

Agreed Fredr, I found out about the live blog archive on Friday evening and couldn't stop reading till the end. Completely hooked.

puckluck · 03-30-2011, 11:25 AM

I guess it's safe to say his movie is based on a true story.

burn_this_city · 03-30-2011, 11:27 AM

I wonder how long until we see a Law and Order episode based on this trial..

billybob123 · 03-30-2011, 11:34 AM

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But this guys crime was ego, he thought that he was something that he wasn't.

Agreed. I saw that when they read his "diary" from his computer (he tried to delete it... good try, moron) that he said when he had the body in the trunk, "no one realizes that right next to them at the stoplight is a serial killer".

He was too stupid to even be a single killer properly, let alone a serial killer.

getbak · 03-30-2011, 11:34 AM

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I wonder how long until we see a Law and Order episode based on this trial..

I thought they had already done one.

fredr123 · 03-30-2011, 01:28 PM

T@T · 03-30-2011, 01:34 PM

One would think someone interested in film and murder would at least watch a few episodes of CSI...dumb as a stump.

fredr123 · 03-30-2011, 01:47 PM

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One would think someone interested in film and murder would at least watch a few episodes of CSI...dumb as a stump.

CIS is about as good a reference for the powers of forensic investigation as House is an example of how doctors diagnose mysterious illnesses.

He put an awful lot of forethought into his plot. The level of planning puts him way above and beyond the average person on trial for murder in this province. He's in a whole different category altogether.

In hindsight, he made a few really big mistakes. The execution of his plan left quite a bit to be desired and the first victim getting away altogether certainly did not assist the enterprise.

fredr123 · 03-31-2011, 10:18 AM

Today, the jury will hear from the Assistant Chief Medical Examiner. Should be some pretty nasty stuff about cause of death and the state of the remains found in the sewer.

I had the (mis)pleasure of being in the courtroom when the ME was describing the victims in the Steinke trial here in Calgary. No amount of horror movies or CSI episodes really prepares you for crime scene photos of real victims with real blood.

Weiser Wonder · 03-31-2011, 10:50 AM

Stupid people RGMG. Dexter is a decent show, yet this guy, with all his massive brain power, decides that it's actually a good idea to kill people. He also decides he can get away with it, based on a TV show. Reasonably, Dexter would have been caught half way through Season 1 and certainly by Season 2.

Scum of the earth and stupid? Looks good on ya, Twitchell.

EDIT: I just read the blog about the interview. Man, the detective just ate him alive. Fascinating stuff.

fredr123 · 04-04-2011, 10:31 AM

Blood spatter expert testifying today. He was described as doing in real life what Dexter Morgan does for a day job on the show. He's explaining luminol and Hemastix right now. Some real life CSI stuff going down right now. Twitchell probably has a semi right now.

Weiser Wonder · 04-04-2011, 10:39 AM

Looking at the tremendous amount of evidence against Twitchell, I can't believe he plead not guilty. He doesn't stand a chance. His lawyer hasn't even been cross examining the witnesses. Just minor clarifications here and there.

I wonder what possible defense his lawyer will come up with. Conspiracy to set him up I guess. I don't think they could go for insanity.

puckluck · 04-04-2011, 11:22 AM

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Looking at the tremendous amount of evidence against Twitchell, I can't believe he plead not guilty. He doesn't stand a chance. His lawyer hasn't even been cross examining the witnesses. Just minor clarifications here and there.

I wonder what possible defense his lawyer will come up with. Conspiracy to set him up I guess. I don't think they could go for insanity.

People couldn't believe OJ Simpson pled not guilty as well...

Did you really expect him to just plead guilty?