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		|  02-01-2011, 04:33 PM | #41 |  
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					Originally Posted by Bertuzzied  If you are completely crappy driver and are scared to death of the roads you should LOVE and ADORE this sign. It is made for people who cannot drive.
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...And your next best friend is the left turn arrow!!  .... you hardly have to think at all, SO WHY ARE YOU SO HESITANT!!??   |  
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		|  02-01-2011, 04:53 PM | #42 |  
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			Speaking of left turn sensors in Calgary, they never work while on my motorcycle. I have to wave a following car up to my back fender so the car trips the sensor. I looked up the law in such a case and it appears, if the sensor isn't working, you can treat it as a four way stop and proceed when safe.
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		|  02-01-2011, 05:12 PM | #43 |  
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					Originally Posted by Bertuzzied  Also how about the idiots who stop way too far back from the intersection on a red light and doesnt' trigger the sensor.
 One time i missed 4 turning lights because both drivers were well back of the sensor.  I finally got out of my car and ran past 5 cars to the front to tell them to move up. Can't believe the cars in front of me didn't honk.
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I did the same thing on Memorial turning onto Edmonton Tr to go downtown. After 3 or 4 lights I ran up to the guy in front and told him, "You have to move ahead or the light won't change". He then proceeded through the red light  and almost got t-boned.
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		|  02-01-2011, 05:15 PM | #44 |  
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			It amazes me the amount of people who do not understand the most basic of road signs... like a Yield vs. a merge.
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		|  02-01-2011, 05:43 PM | #45 |  
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					Originally Posted by DownInFlames  I did the same thing on Memorial turning onto Edmonton Tr to go downtown. After 3 or 4 lights I ran up to the guy in front and told him, "You have to move ahead or the light won't change". He then proceeded through the red light and almost got t-boned. |  
So you almost killed him! hehe
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		|  02-01-2011, 05:44 PM | #46 |  
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					Originally Posted by Vulcan  Speaking of left turn sensors in Calgary, they never work while on my motorcycle. I have to wave a following car up to my back fender so the car trips the sensor. I looked up the law in such a case and it appears, if the sensor isn't working, you can treat it as a four way stop and proceed when safe. |  
The lights use inductive loops to acknowledge there is a vehicle there.  You should be able to see the line in the asphalt where the workers cut the road to install the lines.  Your motorcycle should be enough to complete the loop, but perhaps not.  Make sure you're right overtop of the lines and the steel in your bike should make the circuit.
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		|  02-01-2011, 05:54 PM | #47 |  
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					Originally Posted by worth  The lights use inductive loops to acknowledge there is a vehicle there.  You should be able to see the line in the asphalt where the workers cut the road to install the lines.  Your motorcycle should be enough to complete the loop, but perhaps not.  Make sure you're right overtop of the lines and the steel in your bike should make the circuit. |  
Failing that. you should get off your motorcyle go to the pedestrian lights and walk your cycle across the road like a bicycle.
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		|  02-01-2011, 06:01 PM | #48 |  
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					Originally Posted by worth  The lights use inductive loops to acknowledge there is a vehicle there.  You should be able to see the line in the asphalt where the workers cut the road to install the lines.  Your motorcycle should be enough to complete the loop, but perhaps not.  Make sure you're right overtop of the lines and the steel in your bike should make the circuit. |  
Oh yeah, like I'm slow and can't figure out where the loop is. Calgary's set up just doesn't recognize motorcycles very well as I have no problems in BC.
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		|  02-01-2011, 06:03 PM | #49 |  
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					Originally Posted by Bertuzzied  Failing that. you should get off your motorcyle go to the pedestrian lights and walk your cycle across the road like a bicycle. |  
You should go and do something to yourself, he he.
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		|  02-01-2011, 07:44 PM | #50 |  
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					Originally Posted by worth  What about pulling into an intersection while it's green waiting to turn left?  I've been behind people who don't pull into the intersection, and because of traffic volume, never make the left turn.  I sat for three lights before they got a chance to get through.  I laid on the horn after the second light and I got the finger in response.  I think some provinces teach that you're not supposed to pull into the intersection? |  
Ya, some provinces do, and in fact my AMA instructor told me the same thing.     But alas, I only followed it during the exam. 
 
On left hand turns, what annoys me are the people who coast while they are sitting in the intersection waiting for oncoming traffic to clear up.  You know the type... the impatient ones who will keep creeping forward like it's going to get them there faster.  Then ooops, they are actually past the halfway point, with the lane they are turning onto directly to their left at 90 degrees.   At this point, a sane person would stop, but nooooooo, they keep at er, coasting towards the other side of the intersection.   When the light finally turns yellow, they now have to pull an acute angle turn, greater than 90 degrees, which takes them longer to do so.  Even worse in winter when they can't get traction because the wheel is cranked all the way over.
 
Worse is when they creep so far forward, they impede the cars turning coming from the opposite direction.
		 
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		|  02-01-2011, 10:34 PM | #51 |  
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					Originally Posted by Flabbibulin  I also wonder how Calgarians can be so stupid when it come to 4 way stops?!  What kind of dummy doesn't know the right of way rules of a 4-way stop?? I'm talking specifically about people that sit there waiting when they were obviously the first ones to stop. |  
They are waiting for everybody else to stop too.
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		|  02-01-2011, 11:02 PM | #52 |  
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					Originally Posted by JustAnotherGuy  They are waiting for everybody else to stop too. |  
One thing I remember is that Right of Way is not taken, it's given.  If a guy doesn't look like he's gonna stop at a 4 way stop (like if he has no signs of slowing down until like 10 feet from the sign, even if I got there first, I'm gonna wait, no use putting my life at risk over a guy not stopping at a 4-way stop
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		|  02-02-2011, 07:40 AM | #53 |  
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					Originally Posted by worth  What about pulling into an intersection while it's green waiting to turn left?  I've been behind people who don't pull into the intersection, and because of traffic volume, never make the left turn.  I sat for three lights before they got a chance to get through.  I laid on the horn after the second light and I got the finger in response.  I think some provinces teach that you're not supposed to pull into the intersection? |  
I don't know what the law is, and I always pull in to the intersection as well. But I saw a guy on Nose Hill do this once, didn't get to make the turn till the light was basically red and the cop behind him pulled him over.
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