Liberals PROMISE to hand out 9 billion for your vote!!!

[HOZ]

http://www.canada.com/montreal/montr...3-f9ecc5aed536

Today's pledge will bring to about $9 billion the amount the Liberals, their minority government on the verge of collapse, will have put on the table in two days.

Harper is scary, Harper is scary, Harper is scaryu. It's Alberta's fault, Redneck Alberta, Alberta's fault, break up Confederation, Healthcare destroyed, Harper, Alberta, Scary.....

[Cheese]

The federal government will announce an agreement today to pay out close to $4 billion during the next five years to settle outstanding claims brought by aboriginals abused while attending federally run residential schools, sources have told CanWest News Service.

I wonder how much I can sue for for having my elementary teachers humiliate and abuse me in front of the class...not to mention getting the strap by the Principal!
FOUR BILLION dollars!!!

[Thunderball]

Originally Posted by Cheese

I wonder how much I can sue for for having my elementary teachers humiliate and abuse me in front of the class...not to mention getting the strap by the Principal!
FOUR BILLION dollars!!!

Glad to see I'm not the only one who finds this ridiculous... I'm not an advocate of residential schools, but everyone over 35 (and especially over 50) have stories of abuse from their teachers that easily rival some of this stuff.

My grandparents immigrated from Europe in the 1950s and were treated like trash from the government... when should we expect our cheque?

[JohnnyFlame]

Never have understood why the bozo's in Ontario keep putting the Liberals in power as it is plainly obvious they do little but feed money to their buddies along with grossly mismange the money they steal off us.

But hey this move makes sense--Think of the huge boost to Seagrams etc. and to the Ford Motor Company for pickups.

[tripin_billie]

Originally Posted by Cheese

I wonder how much I can sue for for having my elementary teachers humiliate and abuse me in front of the class...not to mention getting the strap by the Principal!
FOUR BILLION dollars!!!

come on, really, were you also forced to give up your family at around age three, to not see them again until age 18? Were you subject to sexual assault. Were you beaten simply for speaking your first language. Then, when you were done, sent back to your community with none of the skills required to survive in it. Then, when you inevitably decided to go to the cities, were subject to intense racism?

when you got all that in your elemtary, junior, and senior high years, then you can get a settlement.




I do not want the Liberals to win, but come on, at least think a little more before jumping to a conclusion.

[WCE]

Originally Posted by tripin_billie

come on, really, were you also forced to give up your family at around age three, to not see them again until age 18? Were you subject to sexual assault. Were you beaten simply for speaking your first language. Then, when you were done, sent back to your community with none of the skills required to survive in it. Then, when you inevitably decided to go to the cities, were subject to intense racism?

when you got all that in your elemtary, junior, and senior high years, then you can get a settlement.




I do not want the Liberals to win, but come on, at least think a little more before jumping to a conclusion.

Billie, I agree, fully.

It was a government endorsed program in cooperation with the church that the residential schools were to serve as a sort of refinery...And it was in these schools that Native children were to be groomed to become a servant class.

These schools and those practices were supported by the government.

Ever wonder why there is such rampant alcoholism, crime and broken family units in Native society?

That's what happens when you destroy almost an entire generation of people by subjecting them to degrading and psychologically harmful conditions.

There is an entire generation of Native's that as a result of these schools were brought up without love or care. They were not equipped with the tools necessary to raise children, because they themselves were never raised in a healthy environment.

Not every Native falls into this category, but certainly a significant portion of the population does.

I know someone personally who went through one of these schools...

How about only being allowed to use 3 plys of toilet paper per day? Need more? Time for a beating...

Tried to talk to your sister who lives in the building on other side of the school? Time for a beating. And no it doesn't matter that you are only 7 years old and don't have a firm grasp on english. You are not allowed to communicate at any time in your language.

Father Fred feels like getting frisky? Too bad, because nobody cares, and those who do will find their complaints swept under the corrupt church rug.


Institutionalized hatred is not something I can support. I don't like throwing money at problems, but certainly something must be done to atone for this past injustice.

The person I know who went through one of these schools needs regular therapy because of all her surpressed memories. They still haunt her. They range from sexual to physical abuses. She has emotional scars that affected the way she raised her two daughters, and they almost destroyed her family.

[EddyBeers]

Good to see racism is alive and well on the new Calgarypuck.

Originally Posted by JohnnyFlame

But hey this move makes sense--Think of the huge boost to Seagrams etc. and to the Ford Motor Company for pickups.

[JohnnyFlame]

Originally Posted by EddyBeers

Good to see racism is alive and well on the new Calgarypuck.

Call it whatever you like. ****in away money given to those who don't earn it. Hardly a statement that facts won't backup and why we should support a group of bloody leeches is beyond me. I had parents who arrived here in the 50's with squat. No land, no handouts and educational opportunities either. They made it through hard work. Asking to be compensated by the current generation for something that was done by earlier generations is bullcrap at best and just atypical looking for the handout which describes a generation of aboriginals who continue to feed at the trough and who demand respect but don't earn it and want me to baby them yet again.

I wish these handouts were on the tax form and you could choose whether or not your money would go to them. Your horsemanure about racism would dissapear instantly because you wouldn't give them a freakin penny--guaranteed!!!!!

[Flame Of Liberty]

Originally Posted by JohnnyFlame

Never have understood why the bozo's in Ontario keep putting the Liberals in power as it is plainly obvious they do little but feed money to their buddies along with grossly mismange the money they steal off us.

Ag, are you paying attention, here is another guy who thinks that the gov is stealing money from us

I find it surprising that anyone would find it surprising that politicians are doing everything they can to keep themselves in power.

PS Eddy Beers, not so good to see that stinky political corectness is alive and well on the new CPuck.

[Cheese]

In case you didnt notice...I was being FACETIOUS!

Originally Posted by tripin_billie

come on, really, were you also forced to give up your family at around age three, to not see them again until age 18? Were you subject to sexual assault. Were you beaten simply for speaking your first language. Then, when you were done, sent back to your community with none of the skills required to survive in it. Then, when you inevitably decided to go to the cities, were subject to intense racism?

when you got all that in your elemtary, junior, and senior high years, then you can get a settlement.




I do not want the Liberals to win, but come on, at least think a little more before jumping to a conclusion.

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty

Ag, are you paying attention, here is another guy who thinks that the gov is stealing money from us

I find it surprising that anyone would find it surprising that politicians are doing everything they can to keep themselves in power.

PS Eddy Beers, not so good to see that stinky political corectness is alive and well on the new CPuck.

Lol, 2 things.

1. The guy you're 'agreeing' with thinks that natives being paid out for suffering under the residential program are 'bloody leeches'. If you do as well, then I guess you're peas in a pod.
2. I'll hazard a guess and suggest that his comment was made because of the circumstances and context here. He thinks spending tax dollars on native settlement is a waste of money. He also goes on to talk about what he'd like to see changed on his tax form... so... he's not exactly preaching an anti-tax manifesto here.

I don't infer that he believes, by default, that all taxes collected at all times is organized theft. Of course, he could come out and agree with you. But I doubt he, or anyone else will, given the inflexibility and straight out impracticality of your philosophical theory.

Until you realize that anarcho-capitalism is a fantasy that has little/no impact on North American/European 'reality', we'll continue to butt heads on these issues. Not that I mind, of course.

[Flame Of Liberty]

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

Lol, 2 things.

1. The guy you're 'agreeing' with thinks that natives being paid out for suffering under the residential program are 'bloody leeches'. If you do as well, then I guess you're peas in a pod.

Well for the record, I think that everyone living off stolen money is a bloody leech. How else would you call it?

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

2. I'll hazard a guess and suggest that his comment was made because of the circumstances and context here. He thinks spending tax dollars on native settlement is a waste of money. He also goes on to talk about what he'd like to see changed on his tax form... so... he's not exactly preaching an anti-tax manifesto here.

I don't infer that he believes, by default, that all taxes collected at all times is organized theft. Of course, he could come out and agree with you. But I doubt he, or anyone else will, given the inflexibility and straight out impracticality of your philosophical theory.

Hehe yeah I dont think he believes that, myself, thats why I put a smilie there. But you will understand that I couldnt resist the urge to misinterpret his quote

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

Until you realize that anarcho-capitalism is a fantasy that has little/no impact on North American/European 'reality', we'll continue to butt heads on these issues. Not that I mind, of course.

Well, since it has little impact, that means my work here is not done yet

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty

Ag, are you paying attention, here is another guy who thinks that the gov is stealing money from us

I find it surprising that anyone would find it surprising that politicians are doing everything they can to keep themselves in power.

PS Eddy Beers, not so good to see that stinky political corectness is alive and well on the new CPuck.

Excuse me???? I thought posting under 2 different names (aliases) was illegal at this site??? 　Don't remember Agamemnon (not worthy of this name) posting here before this post! Hmmm....　Unless I am missing some PM'ｓ

[Incinerator]

9 Billion? I'm not gonna see a penny of it, infact, I contributed to the largest part of that 9 billion along with the rest of Alberta, which is exactly why the Fiberals won't get a vote out of my cold dead hands in my grave.

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by HOZ

Excuse me???? I thought posting under 2 different names (aliases) was illegal at this site??? 　Don't remember Agamemnon (not worthy of this name) posting here before this post! Hmmm....　Unless I am missing some PM'ｓ

Flame of Liberty and I have had this running argument on taxation = theft for months now on this board, and through PM's, that's why he adressed me. Ask him yourself... or toss incendiary accusations around wildly with no evidence, whichever you think is the better course.

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty

Well for the record, I think that everyone living off stolen money is a bloody leech. How else would you call it?

I'd call it what everyone except you and a bare handful of others call it; Taxation and organized Charity. It's not like its a new concept being radically introduced... the welfare state has been around for a while.

Hehe yeah I dont think he believes that, myself, thats why I put a smilie there. But you will understand that I couldnt resist the urge to misinterpret his quote

All right, fair enough, I'll let you have your fun.

Well, since it has little impact, that means my work here is not done yet

I hear ya. Maybe start a few more Libertarian threads and test the political waters around here, see how warm (or chilly) a reception anarcho-capitalism receives as an alternative to the status quo. Finally a thread where I can be in the majority!

[mykalberta]

Does it really matter, so long as people in downton TO think that the gun laws will curb gang violence, is their any reasoning with them. Liberals will win another minority and we will keep going like that until the PC do something completely stupid again and allow some non politico SOB who actually tells the truth about what he/she believes and it is taken out of context.

The PC have to learn one thing about politics, the truth doesnt win you votes - plain and simple. And until they learn that they will never win in event he burbs of YYZ, YUL, YOW, YHM etc.

MYK

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

Flame of Liberty and I have had this running argument on taxation = theft for months now on this board, and through PM's, that's why he adressed me. Ask him yourself... or toss incendiary accusations around wildly with no evidence, whichever you think is the better course.

Yes.... you and your inifinitely superior Masters degree socialists buds

You and Winsor PrImmitate are on notice. Too many Winsimilar post bud. Wil complain! Same nope...similar....yes...too many personas too similar!

PM Flame of Socialism all you want. Don't believe it.

[Flame On]

Originally Posted by Incinerator

9 Billion? I'm not gonna see a penny of it, infact, I contributed to the largest part of that 9 billion along with the rest of Alberta, which is exactly why the Fiberals won't get a vote out of my cold dead hands in my grave.

Yeah you personally contributed the largest part Did you feel you were in need of a piece of of the 16 military transport planes purchased? Yeah stupid libs, where's my military plane?
I can see why you'd want some of the school money though.

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by JohnnyFlame

Asking to be compensated by the current generation for something that was done by earlier generations is bullcrap at best and just atypical looking for the handout which describes a generation of aboriginals who continue to feed at the trough and who demand respect but don't earn it and want me to baby them yet again.

You obviously have no clue about what went on in the Residential School program. It was a government sponsored program that took small native children from their families, stripped them of their cultural identities and tried to get them to be white. There was rampant physical, sexual and emotional abuse at these schools. They were physically disciplined for speaking their own language! Most children didn't even speak english when they arrived at the residential school! The people who were forced into Residential Schools deserve compensation from the government because it was a government program. Next you will probably tell us that people interned in camps by the Canadian government during World War II are "feeding at the trough, demanding unearned respect and wanting you to baby them."