Morrissey calls the Chinese a subspecies because of their animal rights record

[Hack&Lube]

Think about this issue in relation to the seal hunt debate in Canada before you point fingers at anyone or yourself.

That said, I am ethnically Chinese and I vehemently despise a lot of the practices and cultural attitudes of mainland China as rude and barbaric, so much so that I never want to visit there. That's a purely personal prejudice because I am an animal lover.

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by HOZ

What is the problem?...it's Halal!

And here's HOZ to add his racist two cents. Well played.

Getting ready to burn the Koran on the 11th with the rest of your 'friends'?

[Shazam]

I thought this topic couldn't get any worse, and it did.

Only thing it needs now is a spurt of blood from the Internet to spray your face everytime you open the thread.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

And here's HOZ to add his racist two cents. Well played.

Getting ready to burn the Koran on the 11th with the rest of your 'friends'?

Is Hoz known for racist remarks? It's an honest question, I've never noticed it before.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Abortion really has nothing to do with the original topic but I'll bring up a couple of points.

By bring up abortion you are stating that:

A) Abortion was invented by the west.

False. Abortion was invented by nobody really, since ancient times women would just mix up concoctions of poisonous herbs to terminate their pregnancies. Abortion is by no means a new or western concept.

B) That abortion only exists in the west.

False. Bringing this back to China, there were 13 million abortions in China in 2009. Culturally, they are still having major problems with sex-selection abortion and the one child policy.

If aborting fetus that are girls or killing/throwing away baby girls after birth is not a major human rights violation then I don't know what is.

You totally missed my point but I think that you are so confused, you might even be on my side!

[bizaro86]

Wow...

Abortion, Animal Rights, we even have a little bit of Religion in there with the monks. Anyone think we should go for politics in this thread?

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Think about this issue in relation to the seal hunt debate in Canada before you point fingers at anyone or yourself.

That said, I am ethnically Chinese and I vehemently despise a lot of the practices and cultural attitudes of mainland China as rude and barbaric, so much so that I never want to visit there. That's a purely personal prejudice because I am an animal lover.

But do you feel that you are a member of a subspecies? Cultural practices are one thing, race is something else. There is nothing genetically deficient about Chinese.

[Coys1882]

Originally Posted by peter12

But do you feel that you are a member of a subspecies? Cultural practices are one thing, race is something else. There is nothing genetically deficient about Chinese.

I'm sure Morrissey or whatever his name is didn't really MEAN that they were genetically inferior to other races - just that their lack of animal and human rights make them seem like they are.

It's obvious you're an intelligent fellow Peter - but you come across as the guy at the bar in Good Will Hunting - you know the one that tries to intellectually beat down Ben Affleck until Matt Damon 'steps in' - you're trying too hard.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Coys1882

I'm sure Morrissey or whatever his name is didn't really MEAN that they were genetically inferior to other races - just that their lack of animal and human rights make them seem like they are.

It's obvious you're an intelligent fellow Peter - but you come across as the guy at the bar in Good Will Hunting - you know the one that tries to intellectually beat down Ben Affleck until Matt Damon 'steps in' - you're trying too hard.

It's funny, but I'm not actually trying that hard.

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by octothorp

Until these animal rights activists turn their attention to the problems in their own back yard (the mass and inhumane fur farm operations throughout Europe), I'll have no respect for them.

You aren't very familiar with the animal rights movement are you? Just because Morrissey makes a statement about Chinese animal rights abuses doesn't mean that animal rights activists aren't trying to end abuses all over the world.

[kirant]

His arguement makes no logical sense. IIRC, a subspecies is a specialization of a species. We could argue that EVERY ethnicity is a subspecies (IE - British, French, Russian). Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

[jhunt223]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

You whiteys are just as sick.

http://www.animalsuffering.com/animal-cruelty.php

I guess that makes you another type of sub species eh?

Yah that stuffs pretty messed up too, but theres no way that kind of thing would fly in front of one of the busiest restaurants in town in the west.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by peter12

You totally missed my point but I think that you are so confused, you might even be on my side!

You brought up abortion as "westerners kill millions without batting an eyelashed" so that's what I based my points on cause it's not a western thing nor are westerners worse than the Chinese are.

So abortion had nothing to do with this animal rights subspecies issue. That was my point.

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by peter12

It's funny, but I'm not actually trying that hard.

Which is clear to everyone because your arguments are ridiculous.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by FireFly

Which is clear to everyone because your arguments are ridiculous.

No, it's pretty high level stuff. I just don't think you are a very serious person. Seriously, I don't attack you for some of the ridiculous thinking-lite stuff you post, what's your deal with me?

[peter12]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

You brought up abortion as "westerners kill millions without batting an eyelashed" so that's what I based my points on cause it's not a western thing nor are westerners worse than the Chinese are.

So abortion had nothing to do with this animal rights subspecies issue. That was my point.

Where-as, your response was a weird mix of "abortion has always existed" and "the Chinese do it worse." Both points completely missed my own.

[kirant]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

You whiteys are just as sick.

http://www.animalsuffering.com/animal-cruelty.php

I guess that makes you another type of sub species eh?

To add:
http://www.tinygreenbubble.com/eco/e...t-a-subspecies

(Note: Not all 7 arguements are usable for support)

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by peter12

Where-as, your response was a weird mix of "abortion has always existed" and "the Chinese do it worse." Both points completely missed my own.

You're stating they we as westerners shouldn't judge others cause we "kill millions without batting an eyelash", I'm saying that this is not true, we don't kill millions and they're worse. We should judge them.

Unless this wasn't your point at all, then you'll have to rephrase it.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

You're stating they we as westerners shouldn't judge others cause we "kill millions without batting an eyelash", I'm saying that this is not true, we don't kill millions and they're worse. We should judge them.

Unless this wasn't your point at all, then you'll have to rephrase it.

Judging someone else, especially in the context of xenophobia, is a really easy way to avoid looking at your own ugly realities. I don't care about the Chinese. I care about my own country and community. I'd rather deal with our problems first than moralistically standing on a high horse.

[Gozer]

Originally Posted by peter12

No, it's pretty high level stuff. I just don't think you are a very serious person. Seriously, I don't attack you for some of the ridiculous thinking-lite stuff you post, what's your deal with me?

http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/File:SmugAlert13.jpg

Can't post image, it's the "d-bags enjoying the smell of their own farts" gag from South Park.