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valo403 · 08-03-2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SeeBass

I never said I support anybody. I also never stated they get a pass. I think they should be charged too. They guys expect to be charged it is part of the protest itself.
You missed my point.

So many protests in history have been deemed illegal do you have the same opinion on all of them?

You have to place protests into context as well, a number of those protests you referenced occurred in periods where the ability/right to protest in a legal and peaceful manner simply didn't exist. In modern day Canada that's simply not the case. There are ample channels to effectively spread a message without resort to actions that pose a safety risk to others.

MelBridgeman · 08-03-2010, 04:04 PM

Small sample size, but this thread shows how little support greenpeace gets....you might say they are out of touch and basically just a welfare system for a select few punks

SeeBass · 08-03-2010, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

No your point is interesting because non of them were really relevant to todays protest.

Your trying to match either violent protests, a slave uprising or terrorist threats to todays attempt at wasteful attention whoring.

I don't get the similarities.

And in terms of one man's terrorist is another mans hero. I counter with the quote by I believe Lenin where he stated that the goal of terrorism was to terrorize. I also point to Stalin who plainly pointed out that terrorists were useful idiots.

That is your opinion and that was the point I am trying to make that a protest is like art.

The road I am going down is that many on here speak of these protesters with vile but may support another so as per my original message I feel that most hate the messanger because they hate the message.

Sometimes art is illegal and it is deemed as "wasteful attention whoring" and sometimes people see it as art, it is in the eye of the beholder.

You may hate one illegal protest and love another.

Ozy_Flame · 08-03-2010, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kipperfan

Why do you keep calling everyone son? Trying to show you're better/older then everyone else? Jesus H - definatley a Greenpeacer.

No I dont work for the CPS, in fact, if you look at my post history it is anything but pro CPS. I am pro "jackarses not screwing with my cities resources, first responders and citizens safety". But, like I said in my last post, it is clear Greenpeace and Greenpeacer's could care less about the laws of the land. THAT is what you dont get. The vast majority of citizens in this country (planet?) respect the laws we're governed by - why should we expect any less from Greenpeace? (don't cop out on this one with your "sons" or whatever - lets hear your anwser).

Why should you expect less from Greenpeace? Because they've done it countless times before and will do it countless times again.

Good enough for you, basketball star? (you might like that one better).

Zevo · 08-03-2010, 04:07 PM

Ozy, you lost any chance of me reading your posts objectively when you used that 'son' crap. Which is funny because greenpeace has no chance of me donating to thier cause when they pull crap like this.

You Need a Thneed · 08-03-2010, 04:08 PM

If that organization spent their budget on legal protests and other methods, instead of illegal, attention grabbing methods, they would be much further ahead in getting people -and especially governments - to listen.

The world has tuned them out because of their medium.

This is what we are saying.

4X4 · 08-03-2010, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Zevo

Ozy, you lost any chance of me reading your posts objectively when you used that 'son' crap. Which is funny because greenpeace has no chance of me donating to thier cause when they pull crap like this.

Why not resort to insolence while defending it? Makes perfect sense.

HeartsOfFire · 08-03-2010, 04:09 PM

Fata Greenpeace.

Ozy_Flame · 08-03-2010, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Zevo

Ozy, you lost any chance of me reading your posts objectively when you used that 'son' crap. Which is funny because greenpeace has no chance of me donating to thier cause when they pull crap like this.

Congrats? I don't really care, I don't donate to them either. I also don't care if you read my posts. I didn't even know you existed before this thread.

valo403 · 08-03-2010, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Congrats? I don't really care, I don't donate to them either. I also don't care if you read my posts. I didn't even know you existed before this thread.

Quite the abrupt turn from doing a pretty solid job of defending a position to acting like a tool. Impressive actually.

Madman · 08-03-2010, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SeeBass

the point I am trying to make that a protest is like art.

Really? That's what you've resorted to?

The point I am trying to make is oil is like rainbows. Sometimes they symbolize the unnatural sodomy of two men and sometimes they are so beatiful there are two of them and they become a double rainbow.

You may hate sodomy but love double rainbows....or the other way around.

Ozy_Flame · 08-03-2010, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by valo403

Quite the abrupt turn from doing a pretty solid job of defending a position to acting like a tool. Impressive actually.

Thanks, it's not hard.

SeeBass · 08-03-2010, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by valo403

You have to place protests into context as well, a number of those protests you referenced occurred in periods where the ability/right to protest in a legal and peaceful manner simply didn't exist. In modern day Canada that's simply not the case. There are ample channels to effectively spread a message without resort to actions that pose a safety risk to others.

that is a valid point

SeeBass · 08-03-2010, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Madman

Really? That's what you've resorted to?

The point I am trying to make is oil is like rainbows. Sometimes they symbolize the unnatural sodomy of two men and sometimes they are so beatiful there are two of them and they become a double rainbow.

You may hate sodomy but love double rainbows....or the other way around.

Shhhhh...growns ups are talking

Zevo · 08-03-2010, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Congrats? I don't really care, I don't donate to them either. I also don't care if you read my posts. I didn't even know you existed before this thread.

Nice, and now the transformation is complete.

Rerun · 08-03-2010, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by enthused

I wonder if those Greenpeace geniuses know that their sign was probably made of petroleum products.

Brilliant observation. What a bunch of hypocrites!

Frequitude · 08-03-2010, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Congrats? I don't really care, I don't donate to them either. I also don't care if you read my posts. I didn't even know you existed before this thread.

Simmer down now, grandma.

Madman · 08-03-2010, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SeeBass

Shhhhh...growns ups are talking

Growns ups needs a grammars lessons.

Ozy_Flame · 08-03-2010, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Frequitude

Simmer down now, grandma.

I haven't used that one before, but I like it too - kudos

SeeBass · 08-03-2010, 04:19 PM

For some that can't wrap their head around my point I will really dumb it down.

Many on here have acted with vile towards the protesters but I only wished for them to think equally at all illegal protests and wether they are mad at the act or hated them as they didn't agree with the message.