I eyeballed the Barlow and 16th interchange and compared it with Google maps, and they appear to be pretty close to the same size. I would imagine that the volume of traffic from and to various directions could also be a factor though.
Yeah I was just looking over that picture again and its pretty long, we can all agree it should be its own lane.
But thats a really expensive fix they would have to remove the yield sign and replace it with a lane sign and maybe a "New" sign for a few weeks.
Wouldn't the fact that the yield sign is positioned at entry into the "free lane" mean you yield the right of way to anyone cutting into that lane? If that was a free lane for the yielder to enter before yielding again to the left lane, then the yield sign would have been positioned at the end of the the "free lane" rather than at the entry.
Why would you ever have to yield to a adjacent parallel lane - a lane that has to cross a dotted line to get into the lane you are driving in, when you yourself do not have any lines to cross, and simply can continue to drive in the lane you are in.
The yield sign is clearly contradictory to the way the lanes are marked. And because of the way the lanes are marked, there simply is no meaning to the yield sign.
You guys need to stop talking about this and get back to bitching about other crappy drivers... Like the ones who are too stupid to look left when approaching a right turn with only a yield sign, and then stop or slow down when they could have just breezed through, forcing people behind them to slow down.
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Leaving Barlow northbound onto Sheppard. There is a yield sign before the right turn onto sheppard that slows down because to your left is a hill blocking the view of any vehicles coming down Sheppard with the right of way. Lots of rear end accident because people go and have to stop quickly because a rare vehicle is coming. Knock down the damn hill and traffic will smooth out there!!
Why would you ever have to yield to a adjacent parallel lane - a lane that has to cross a dotted line to get into the lane you are driving in, when you yourself do not have any lines to cross, and simply can continue to drive in the lane you are in.
The yield sign is clearly contradictory to the way the lanes are marked. And because of the way the lanes are marked, there simply is no meaning to the yield sign.
I would assume you'd have to yield to an adjacent parallel lane, even a lane that has to cross a dotted line to get into the lane you're driving in when you yourself do not have any lines to cross, and simply can continue to drive in the lane you are in because you have a yield sign.
I'm no expert on the Alberta Motor Vehicle Act, but I'm going out on a limb and saying it's because the sign is telling you to yield there.
Now again, I'm no expert on the Alberta Motor Vehicle Act, heck I've never even driven in your fine province, however I'd think that the sign would take priority over the lane markings and not the other way around. Hence if a parking space has a handicapped sign, the space is for people with a handicap placard or plate despite the spot itself not being labelled that way. If you parked there and argued in court that despite the sign clearly stating the spot was for handicap parking, but the space itself had no such markings (be it the traditional wheelchair symbol, or merely painted with blue) you would still lose.
To recap: You have to yield to the parallel traffic because you have a sign telling you that you have to.
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Leaving Barlow northbound onto Sheppard. There is a yield sign before the right turn onto sheppard that slows down because to your left is a hill blocking the view of any vehicles coming down Sheppard with the right of way. Lots of rear end accident because people go and have to stop quickly because a rare vehicle is coming. Knock down the damn hill and traffic will smooth out there!!
Yeah, I hate hills like that that block where you are supposed to look. But, even more common are traffic signs, utility boxes, and traffic lights - especially when there are several of these items in close proximity.
You have to yield to the parallel traffic because you have a sign telling you that you have to.
But yield signs mean that you have to yield to perpendicular traffic, never parallel traffic. Line markings (combined with lane ending signs) always indicate when you are required to yield to parallel traffic.
The "weave zone" was linked before, let's read that text from the drivers handbook. The weave zone is the scenario that we have a this intersection, it's not an exit lane the way it's shown and described in the handbook.
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On some limited-access highways there are places where highway entrances
and exits are close together. These areas require a driver’s full attention
because vehicles are slowing down to exit the highway while other vehicles
are speeding up to enter. The area where the vehicles cross is called a
weave zone.
In weave zones, control of your speed and the timing of your lane change to
merge with other traffic demands a skillful use of time and space. Use caution
in these zones to ensure a safe and proper manoeuvre for all vehicles.
But yield signs mean that you have to yield to perpendicular traffic, never parallel traffic. Line markings (combined with lane ending signs) always indicate when you are required to yield to parallel traffic.
The "weave zone" was linked before, let's read that text from the drivers handbook. The weave zone is the scenario that we have a this intersection, it's not an exit lane the way it's shown and described in the handbook.
Again, we've established the fact that you think this should be a merge.
Fact of the matter is it is currently a yield. End of story. Call 3-1-1 and voice your opinion. Until it changes, you must yield.
Why wouldn't you just get the hell out of the way? Are you oblivious to the many cars you're holding up? Are you trying to be a dick?
After reading this thread yesterday, I went on a mission to get mad at slow people in the left lane on the way to hockey. Unfortunately, I took it too far and got pulled over going 132km and following dangerously close to vehicles.
The ticket would have been $194 and 4 demerits, too.
After reading this thread yesterday, I went on a mission to get mad at slow people in the left lane on the way to hockey. Unfortunately, I took it too far and got pulled over going 132km and following dangerously close to vehicles.
The ticket would have been $194 and 4 demerits, too.
I meant inside the cities. It's awesome how traffic works, particularly in Italy. I loved it so much, sometimes I'd rent a car just to drive around for fun. I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder though.
One thing that continued to amaze me was how traffic would dictate itself instead of using signs and lines. If there was way more traffic going one direction than another, the side with more cars would just start taking over the side with less cars. And instead of freaking out and crashing, the cars on the less dominant side would just move over and let it happen.
Try that here... In fact, I sorta did once and boy oh boy did I get reprimanded. I was going WB on Heritage, and I wanted to turn SB onto Elbow. The green arrow was flashing, but the two lanes were clogged to the point where I either had to wait for the E/W traffic to start moving, or else I could pop half my truck over the center line, and advance to the turning lane. I went for it, since there was no oncoming traffic, but just then, a NB guy turned EB and then continued to get into the left lane, even though a dump truck (me) was using half the lane to sneak into the turning lane.
Holy shiz did the guy get offended! Like I was pissing on his father's grave or something. The a-hole had EB Heritage drive all to himself, save for a dumptruck using half his lane for about 20 meters, and the guy loses it. That's Calgary driving for you. God for-forking-bid you have to move over a little bit to let a dump truck catch a light instead of stopping and idling in an intersection.
Another thing about euro driving... Motorcycles always go to the front at lights. And why shouldn't they? They take off way faster. They're using less fuel and space. The reward is that they get to where they're going faster. Not here, though. I don't drive a motorcycle, but I do know that the attitude around here is that if a biker split a lane at a light, some jackass would probably open his door or something. NO WAY IN HELL ANYBODY IS GONNA GET IN FRONT OF ME!!!11! The drivers here are jerks. Just look at the a-holes in this thread with the attitude of "I can drive whatever speed I want in whatever lane I want, and to hell with you people that want to break the law and go faster". There is an a-hole epidemic on the streets of Calgary. Buncha dicks that dont care about anyone but themselves and actually take pleasure in screwing someone else over - because they can.
Over the 14 months I lived in DT Rome, I saw maybe 2 car/car accidents, and about 10 car/scooter accidents. I see two accidents a week in Calgary.
There are some things I like about the way they drive in Europe and there are some things I don't like. Personally, I do not like the feel of "lawless" driving over here. I do like the increased speeds, the round abouts (in the cities not the secondary highways) and the ability to move in and out of traffic easily. I do not like the fact that no one uses their signal light, people can't drive within a lane and I don't like the motor bikes weaving in and out of traffic the way they do. I don't care if they go to the front of the line if they just get there by using the side of the street but weaving their way through a line of 15 cars is a bunch of rubish IMO. I like the fact that Canadians are civilized when they drive and obey the rules of the road.
Your friend is a unforunately a terrible driver. The vehicles entering are supposed to yield.
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What? The yield sign there and at 36th Street (also McKnight Westbound onto Deerfoot southbound) is completely and utterly meaningless. There is no one to yield to - hence, the reason why no one yields at those places. There's people that stop - those are the people that almost always cause accidents.
If the situation was to be treated like you say, the lines on the road would have to be painted differently. As a driver, you should merge at those intersections, its the only safe thing to do. Sure it's a short merge lane, but traffic is only going 60km/h, often less, due to traffic accelerating from the light just before, or backed up from the lights ahead.
Seriously, I have driven those ramps hundreds - maybe thousands of times, and at least 99% of the time, drivers merge there. You can always tell who the drivers are that haven't driven there before, they are the ones coming to a stop, or going really slow. Meanwhile, without fail, someone nearly rear ends them.
It's only been recently that I think I understand why they put a yield sign there. This is a weave lane, and I just found out that in a weave lane the traffic exiting has right of way over the traffic entering. I guess the city decided that it was necesary to point this out at some intersections by placing a yield sign there. The problem with this is the entering vehicle should probably proceed slower than the exiting vehicle to allow then to exit ahead of the entering vehicle. The yield sign there instead forces traffic to hault until the path is clear instead, which completly stops flow and overrides the point of the weave lane...
100% sure. I guess that is their new tactic to catch people. It was 11pm when this happened and I was flying, maybe 140ish, and I see this Prius pullout in front of me and basically block me from passing the row of cars in the right lane. Well I got right up in his bumper and weeved a little right to left, mirror to mirror to let him know. Then it got very bright with blue, red and white lights. Wasn't sure what to do from there so I just followed him for a while and when he got off the next exit continued on my way. At first I thought for sure I was toast but he just carried on his way once I backed off.
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I stop halfway through merges. I also turn left into whatever lane I want. When I get pulled over, I pull over to the left on undivided two way streets. I never use signal lights, but use my horn instead.
Every time I've been pulled over, I politely explain to the police officer that I'm driving a "free car on the road." I've never gotten a ticket. Ever.
