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			haha I actually looked it up trying to find others, those two are pretty much it in the last 20 years
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-23-2010, 08:44 PM
			
			
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				haha I actually looked it up trying to find others, those two are pretty much it in the last 20 years 
			
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			04-23-2010, 09:16 PM
			
			
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Except for the 27 current players in the NFL. I might agree.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-23-2010, 10:29 PM
			
			
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			Very happy with the pats draft 
Mcourty solid ster nickel cb 
Gronkowski is a better TE than gresham imo first round talent 
Cunningham played in a great florida D and made dunlap look good imo 
Spikes, same thing thumper at ilb and true leader 
price is a good route runner with good hands 
 
on top of this they pick up a second from carolina next year that could be in the forties for number 89 of this year!  
 
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			04-23-2010, 10:36 PM
			
			
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			Kind of a jackass move by Mays, IMO. Singletary doesn't sound too impressed with Mays' comments either. 
 
As for the Saints, I'm pretty happy with their draft so far.  I'd like to see them pick up a couple linebackers to compete for time in camp.  They picked up a quality corner, quality tackle, and a freak of nature TE that they can hopefully groom for the future. 
 
I put a lot of faith in the front office, they have had quality drafts every year since the Loomis/Payton team has been together.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-24-2010, 05:32 AM
			
			
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“We had a president that couldn’t get there on time a lot, Bill Clinton,” Jones said. 
  
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			04-24-2010, 08:33 AM
			
			
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			Just lookin thru whats left going into todays 4-7 rds and my goodness there are still a bunch of real good players available... 
  
  
TE Aaron Hernandez: Florida 
SS Larry Asante: Nebraska 
DT Geno Atkins: Georgia 
DT Al Woods: LSU 
DL Clifton Geathers: South Carolina 
RB Jonathan Dwyer: Georgia Tech 
WR Carlton Mitchell: South Florida 
OLB Ricky Sapp: Clemson 
RB Anthony Dixon: Mississippi State 
RB Joe McKnight: Southern Cal 
WR Marcus Easley: Connecticut 
WR Mardy Gilyard: Cincinnati 
TE Anthony McCoy: Southern Cal 
C Matt Tennant: Boston College 
OT Bruce Campbell: Maryland 
OLB Eric Norwood: South Carolina 
DB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah: Indiana PA 
DE Greg Hardy: Ole Miss 
DE Everson Griffen: Southern Cal 
DT Cam Thomas: North Carolina 
QB John Skelton: Fordham 
QB Jonathon Crompton Tennessee 
  
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			04-24-2010, 11:18 AM
			
			
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			Outside of Eric Berry and Jon Asamuah the Chiefs have made a lot of puzzling draft picks.  Like they trade up into the third round to get a blocking Tight End with a lousy draft grade.  I doubt any other NFL team wanted anything to do with Tony Moeaki. 
 
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			04-24-2010, 11:21 AM
			
			
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			I see the Seahawks traded for LenDale White...interesting move and Carrolls first go at acquiring one of his former players.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-24-2010, 11:25 AM
			
			
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			nm beat to it.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-24-2010, 11:43 AM
			
			
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			Seahawks also make a move for Leon Washington who's coming off a pretty brutal injury from the Jets.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-24-2010, 12:18 PM
			
			
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Wunderbar. Having someone that can distribute the ball might make all the difference. The OL is going to be improved. The RBs are talented (Bush and McFadden) and the TE is a really good receiver. The WR corps is suspect, but with Russell throwing the ball, it's tough to measure them. And with the defense not being as comparable to pylons... maybe there will be a more balanced game.
 
The good news - Campbell is better than anything the Raiders have had since Gannon. Plus that means they'll have the most expensive and fattest 3rd string clipboard holder.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-24-2010, 12:30 PM
			
			
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			Raiders get Campbell for a 4th rd pick in 2012...3 years from now. Great move by Oakland. 
  
Rumors floating that Mcfadden is on the block..likely to be a few more trades before the day is done and mostly bodies moving around instead of picks. 
  
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			04-24-2010, 12:35 PM
			
			
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				Wunderbar. Having someone that can distribute the ball might make all the difference. The OL is going to be improved. The RBs are talented (Bush and McFadden) and the TE is a really good receiver. The WR corps is suspect, but with Russell throwing the ball, it's tough to measure them. And with the defense not being as comparable to pylons... maybe there will be a more balanced game. 
 
The good news - Campbell is better than anything the Raiders have had since Gannon. Plus that means they'll have the most expensive and fattest 3rd string clipboard holder. 
			
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As a Raiders fan this is clearly the best draft they have had in years.  They actually addressed needs without reaching for a flashy player and even managed to snag the combine workout warrior (Bruce Campbell) they always seem to covet without reaching.
 
The addition of Jason Campbell is a great move.  With even a marginal QB play last year the Raiders defeated the Eagles, Bengals, and Steelers.  Jason Campbell isn't pro-bowl material but he is efficient and like you said probably the best QB they have had since Gannon.
 
Clearly in my mind the Raiders are now the 2nd best team in the AFC West.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-24-2010, 12:35 PM
			
			
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				Raiders get Campbell for a 4th rd pick in 2012...3 years from now. Great move by Oakland. 
  
Rumors floating that Mcfadden is on the block..likely to be a few more trades before the day is done and mostly bodies moving around instead of picks. 
  
Also just read from Schlereth that Alan faneca is close to being dealt...holy crap I hope the Packers are in on that talk. 
			
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			04-24-2010, 12:37 PM
			
			
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			Wow it's like Al Davis went and got the brain he had from the early 80's out of the cryogenic freezer and put that back in his head.  The Raiders are demonstrating a level of intelligence this offseason that they haven't shown for like 5 years.  Those combine freaks can be good late round picks because if they hit they become good players.  The Raiders just ended up taking too many of them in the first round and tipping their payroll scale towards too many bust.   
 
Getting Campbell is a good move for the simple reason that the guys on the team will rally behind him.  After two games last year those guys knew they had little chance to win regularly with JaMarcus.  Those guys will battle for Campbell, because Campbell is a pretty good competitor himself, he got killed behind that Skins dreadful line but kept wanting to get back out there.  Last year JaMarcus would have just sat on the sideline and forced the coach to put the backup behind that line. 
 
That said...JaMarcus with is new trim tight 271 pound body will respond to the competition, win the starting role, lead the Raiders to 11 wins and the playoffs and go to the Pro Bowl, and never set foot inside the Palms Casino ever again.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			04-24-2010, 12:38 PM
			
			
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Just saw that...wow.
  
GREAT player, one of the best in the last 20 years at his position.
  
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