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Old 11-21-2009, 12:26 PM   #41
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I've said it before and l'll say it again. I would love to get a job working there.
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Old 01-13-2010, 12:28 AM   #42
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Which Albert Einstein was this? Only one I know of was born on the late 1800's
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They seem to have some time on theirs hands over there at CERN. To bring two threads together, if Lady Gaga is truly talented she'll take this to the top of the charts.

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They seem to have some time on theirs hands over there at CERN. To bring two threads together, if Lady Gaga is truly talented she'll take this to the top of the charts.

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Old 03-09-2010, 10:29 PM   #45
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Bah - the LHC will be limited to half impulse power for the rest of 2011 before it shuts down for repairs to enhance safety. Full Impulse (14TeV) won't be attempted until 2013.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8556621.stm

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Old 03-09-2010, 10:38 PM   #46
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Isn't there an American based project that is also rushing to find the Higgs-Boson? Wasn't it supposed to find it first after the delays in the LHC? What's the story on that now?
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Fermilab / Tevatron is racing to try and scoop CERN. Might actually happen. Would be a serious case of Fail for CERN if it were to happen...
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Fermilab / Tevatron is racing to try and scoop CERN. Might actually happen. Would be a serious case of Fail for CERN if it were to happen...
Tevatron is 26 years old and was supposed to shut down this year. They are only running it a little longer since LHC seems to be brokenated. It'll absolutely shut down for good when LHC comes online (because the world will definetely end).
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So, aside from a wealth of knowledge only about 1% of the population will understand or care about anyway, will there be any benefits from these experiments? I mean I know that obviously there could be long term benefits in energy production, possibly propulsion, and (ugh) weaponry, but are there any round the corner applications that this exercise could carry with it?
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So, aside from a wealth of knowledge only about 1% of the population will understand or care about anyway, will there be any benefits from these experiments? I mean I know that obviously there could be long term benefits in energy production, possibly propulsion, and (ugh) weaponry, but are there any round the corner applications that this exercise could carry with it?
These things are mostly done to help understand the universe to and to work on the models of the laws (or lack of laws) of the universe. They are mostly academic but the most relevant thing I can think of is experiments could maybe help us with the development of quantum computing for tomorrow's computers.
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Yeah, that's what I thought.

I've been reading a bunch of science heavy space books lately and been thinking about what happened there in which we are further from the moon now than we were in 1963 and it's just been getting me thinking on science heavy projects that might have real benefits to the human race. Or at least, if not benefits, then something more physical to show off anyway.

Science has become so theoretical in the last 25 years. And while I realize that technically, the LHC is proving such theories and is in fact physical, it's still so far removed from life in the real world it is hard for average people to care about.

Wondering if we'll every see a return of heavy science with heavy engineering or exploration I guess. Or at least something tangible coming form it we can all use like the internet.
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A question for those in the know...how does the Canadian Light Source in Saskatoon compare to the LHC?
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Yeah, that's what I thought.

I've been reading a bunch of science heavy space books lately and been thinking about what happened there in which we are further from the moon now than we were in 1963 and it's just been getting me thinking on science heavy projects that might have real benefits to the human race. Or at least, if not benefits, then something more physical to show off anyway.

Science has become so theoretical in the last 25 years. And while I realize that technically, the LHC is proving such theories and is in fact physical, it's still so far removed from life in the real world it is hard for average people to care about.

Wondering if we'll every see a return of heavy science with heavy engineering or exploration I guess. Or at least something tangible coming form it we can all use like the internet.
It's all money and politics. We only made it to the moon because of the cold war. Big science and big projects and things like that were politically motivated, funded by the military, etc.

Once all that ended, NASA was in dire straits, the Shuttles were aging, there are no replacements, the Hubble was going to be scrapped, big particle accelerators aren't being built in the US, etc.

Big science, the splitting of the atom, etc. all this stuff happened because of the war. The jet age, aviation, rockets, space exploration, satellites - again, all because of war.

We just aren't going to have the sorts of things kids of the 60s dreamed of having today because we are too worried about other things and putting all the money (correctly) into trying to get a working society and economy, etc. and all the regular small things.
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It's all money and politics. We only made it to the moon because of the cold war. Big science and big projects and things like that were politically motivated, funded by the military, etc.

Once all that ended, NASA was in dire straits, the Shuttles were aging, there are no replacements, the Hubble was going to be scrapped, big particle accelerators aren't being built in the US, etc.

Big science, the splitting of the atom, etc. all this stuff happened because of the war. The jet age, aviation, rockets, space exploration, satellites - again, all because of war.

We just aren't going to have the sorts of things kids of the 60s dreamed of having today because we are too worried about other things and putting all the money (correctly) into trying to get a working society and economy, etc. and all the regular small things.
Too true, too true.

There will have to be a shift into business running the show in these types of science endeavors if we want results like that again. Of course that is going to be tough because of morality and political issues. (IE, who owns what in space etc.)

And of course, there will have to be money made in it, which will be tough for the first few companies starting the projects. Course after the first pioneers, the floodgates may open.
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A question for those in the know...how does the Canadian Light Source in Saskatoon compare to the LHC?

Well, after about 30 seconds of googling, I was able to find the following:

Energy level:
CLS: 2.9 GeV
LHC: 14 TeV
Difference: LHC ~ 4800 x CLS

Size:
CLS: footpring about the size of a football field
LHC: Diamter of ~ 27km
Difference: LHC ~ 270 x CLS

Number of comprobale sites in the world:
CLS: 1 of 42
LHC: Just one baby!

Finally, the CLS isn't used for particle collisions, it's used to produce radiation at various wavelengths, to be used as a very bright "Light source" to do experiments, kind of like a GIANT x-ray machine.

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There is an episode of National Geographics Really Big Fixes where the host goes in to help replace the last broken piece of the Uh...

thing where the things spin around in the things.

It's really interesting to hear about the costs, sizes and see how the actually go about fixing parts on this.

Look for it on NG.
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This seems like a hysterical waste of time, money and potentially World shattering paranoia.

It seems like something a mad scientist should be building.
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So... did everyone died yet?
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So... did everyone died yet?
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