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Old 03-07-2010, 01:15 PM   #41
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fair points ... but your last point it may be easy, but i am pretty discerning on who i trust my kids with. teenagers dont qualify and neither do smokers by the way.

smoking is pretty terrible use of judgement and a careless risk .. if you dont care enough about your own health, cant imagine you will care about the offspring of someone else.

Ummm thats just idiotic thinking and has nothing to do with the ability of a person to take care of a child.

You wrap your kid in bubble wrap before they go out, don't you?
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Old 03-07-2010, 01:35 PM   #42
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fair points ... but your last point it may be easy, but i am pretty discerning on who i trust my kids with. teenagers dont qualify and neither do smokers by the way.
I don't use age as a determining factor. If you are using a non-relative I find that references from people I know and trust as well as gut feeling evaluation from talking with the person are more effective then essentially eliminatiing 80% of the pool of short notice babysitters based on age.
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In terms of preparedness I remember there being a Babysitting course from the Red Cross. They taught you first aid and things of that ilk.
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Old 03-07-2010, 01:42 PM   #44
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Ummm thats just idiotic thinking and has nothing to do with the ability of a person to take care of a child.

You wrap your kid in bubble wrap before they go out, don't you?
no actually, we dont ...

but how would you measure the ability of a person to use good judgement or is that not a requirement of looking after kids?
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Old 03-07-2010, 01:49 PM   #45
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no actually, we dont ...

but how would you measure the ability of a person to use good judgement or is that not a requirement of looking after kids?
Good judgment looking after a child has nothing to do with a person smoking or not. A decision someone mad as a teenager or younger has nothing to do with thier ability to take care of a child 10 plus years later.
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Old 03-07-2010, 01:56 PM   #46
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Good judgment looking after a child has nothing to do with a person smoking or not. A decision someone mad as a teenager or younger has nothing to do with thier ability to take care of a child 10 plus years later.
Don't bother. This is his shtick. And as far as babysitters go I stick with family. Cheap and reliable.
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Old 03-07-2010, 02:03 PM   #48
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not sure if you are being sarcastic or not ...

anyhow, when it comes to children, better safe and paranoid then sorry. dont think you get a mulligan on it.

so for those people who think they should only pay a minimum wage (or similar) cuz the kids are sleeping and the babysitter is only there if something goes wrong ... well, umm ... if something goes wrong, dont you want someone around with the ability to handle the situation? a 14 year old working for $30 surely doesnt have the life skills to handle choking, fire or broken limbs ...

how come people pay $75 an hour (or more) to have their car fixed but cant fathom paying a similiar professional to watch their kids?
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fair points ... but your last point it may be easy, but i am pretty discerning on who i trust my kids with. teenagers dont qualify and neither do smokers by the way.

smoking is pretty terrible use of judgement and a careless risk .. if you dont care enough about your own health, cant imagine you will care about the offspring of someone else.
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Good judgment looking after a child has nothing to do with a person smoking or not. A decision someone mad as a teenager or younger has nothing to do with thier ability to take care of a child 10 plus years later.
Just because you make a bad choice as a teenager doesn't mean you have to continue with the same stupid choice for the rest of your life.
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Just because you make a bad choice as a teenager doesn't mean you have to continue with the same stupid choice for the rest of your life.
And yet you're still a Sens fan.
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Good judgment looking after a child has nothing to do with a person smoking or not. A decision someone mad as a teenager or younger has nothing to do with thier ability to take care of a child 10 plus years later.
of course smoking is a sign of whether or not the person has good judgement ... its one of the stupidest things a person could do to themselves.

i guess i figure if they are willing to take that almost guaranteed risk of a painful death, then its pretty good odds for me to not leave my kids with them.

but now we are way off topic .... i just wonder what criteria you might use to guage if someone has good judgement or not?
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of course smoking is a sign of whether or not the person has good judgement ... its one of the stupidest things a person could do to themselves.

i guess i figure if they are willing to take that almost guaranteed risk of a painful death, then its pretty good odds for me to not leave my kids with them.

but now we are way off topic .... i just wonder what criteria you might use to guage if someone has good judgement or not?
Where does ... "Make pedophile jokes on the internet." fit into your decision of somebody showing good judgement?
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Where does ... "Make pedophile jokes on the internet." fit into your decision of somebody showing good judgement?
You seriously need to unclench.
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Where does ... "Make pedophile jokes on the internet." fit into your decision of somebody showing good judgement?

I think you seriously need to take a break from CP, or just find another message board that caters more to your 100% serious posting style. You won't find it here.
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Where does ... "Make pedophile jokes on the internet." fit into your decision of somebody showing good judgement?
You're really quite uptight.
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Where does ... "Make pedophile jokes on the internet." fit into your decision of somebody showing good judgement?
have i made pedo jokes?

anyhow, internet message boards are not real life ... they have no impact and i can choose to ignore things that dont fit my taste ...

not at all the same thing as someone rolling up plants, wrapping them in newsprint and smoking them ... whats the difference between that cigs? would you leave your kids with someone who smoked plants in newsprint or would you think they are a bit loopy and not really want to take the chance of them looking out for your offspring?

whats the difference?
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It was a serious question.
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Where does ... "Make pedophile jokes on the internet." fit into your decision of somebody showing good judgement?
If it hurts your feelings so much when people make fun of you wouldn't it be better for you to grow a thicker skin than to expect others to change?
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Eh, DementedReality... You should be comforted by the fact that I, a dirty, evil smoker, have no children (that I know about). To your chagrin, I do have a dog.
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And yet you're still a Sens fan.
That's not as bad as your closeted love of the Canucks.
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