02-25-2010, 05:47 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pylon
Not to pile on... but that is the very definition of being better. Performing under pressure when it counts.
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Haha, pile on. pileon. pyleon. Pylon.
That was on purpose?
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02-25-2010, 08:26 PM
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#62
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Sep 2006
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Originally Posted by mykalberta
One other thing, where was this video taken. I have my doubts it was taken last night given the russian signage on the window behind him.
Also have the Russians been wearing sochi gear at the Olympics in vancouver? Seems fairly low brow if true.
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I was in Vancouver the last few days and anybody and everybody who was Russian was rocking the Sochi gear.
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02-25-2010, 09:11 PM
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#63
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flameswin
In this case, piling on is perfectly fine, imo. That was the most ridiculous post I've ever seen. He seriously needs to read it back to himself about 50 times and critically think about what he's saying.
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Care to deconstruct my post?
JUst because Crosby outplays Ovechkin in their teams' meetings doesn't make him better.
Hasn't Ovechkin outscored Crosby in every season they've played in the NHL?
Ovechkin > Crosby.
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02-25-2010, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Netskot
Care to deconstruct my post?
JUst because Crosby outplays Ovechkin in their teams' meetings doesn't make him better.
Hasn't Ovechkin outscored Crosby in every season they've played in the NHL?
Ovechkin > Crosby.
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Why. You provide nothing to deconstruct. You are only stating your obviously very flawed opinion.
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02-25-2010, 09:14 PM
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#65
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pylon
Not to pile on... but that is the very definition of being better. Performing under pressure when it counts.
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No. Having more skill is the definition of being better.
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02-25-2010, 09:15 PM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Netskot
No. Having more skill is the definition of being better.
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Feel free to attempt to quantify skill.
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02-25-2010, 09:16 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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If Ovechkin surpasses Gretzky in points without having won a single Cup, he will still be the greatest player ever.
Last edited by Netskot; 02-25-2010 at 09:21 PM.
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02-25-2010, 09:16 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Netskot
No. Having more skill is the definition of being better.
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Your definition of "better" doesn't align with pretty much everyone on the planet. In fact, ask Ovechkin what he would prefer, to be the best according to your definition, or have a Stanley Cup.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Netskot
If Ovechkin surpasses Gretzky in points without having one a single Cup, he will still be the greatest player ever.
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Ha ha, sure if you say so.
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02-25-2010, 09:21 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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It doesn't matter what he would prefer, hockey isn't tennis or golf where individual skill determines a winner.
The best player can play on a bad team and never win and still be the best.
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02-25-2010, 09:23 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Oh my god. Let it go, guy.
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02-25-2010, 09:25 PM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by agubuan
I was in Vancouver the last few days and anybody and everybody who was Russian was rocking the Sochi gear.
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Makes sense, we are passing the Olympic flag to them on Sunday.
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02-25-2010, 09:27 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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I wouldn't have commented anymore had I not seen others disagree with me. Didn't think it would be up for debate imo.
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02-25-2010, 09:27 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Netskot
If Ovechkin surpasses Gretzky in points without having one a single Cup, he will still be the greatest player ever.
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Nope but he would be the greatest scorer ever, to be the greatest player in a sport you need to win a championship. Statistics only tell half of the story when it comes to ranking players.
Ron Francis has more points then Mario Lemieux, Steve Yzerman, and Joe Sakic, do you think that he is a better player than all those guys?
Ask Dan Marino if people see him as the greatest quarterback ever, he is probably the most talented but not the greatest because he never won a championship.
Performing in big games when it counts is what separates the great players from the legendary players.
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02-25-2010, 09:28 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by minnow
Ovechkin, what a tool. Wah, wah, leave me alone. That camera wasn't in his face until he walked over to it. peasant.
He does this to a 100lb girl waiting at the exit where fans are allowed to be? No excuses.
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you wouldn't feel this way if he was Canadian or you Russian.
how is he a peasant?
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02-25-2010, 09:32 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Nope but he would be the greatest scorer ever, to be the greatest player in a sport you need to win a championship. Statistics only tell half of the story when it comes to ranking players.
Ron Francis has more points then Mario Lemieux, Steve Yzerman, and Joe Sakic, do you think that he is a better player than all those guys?
Ask Dan Marino if people see him as the greatest quarterback ever, he is probably the most talented but not the greatest because he never won a championship.
Performing in big games when it counts is what separates the great players from the legendary players.
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You're right, statistics do only tell half the story in determining who's better, but in a team sport, I don't think Championships tell the other half, there are too many other factors.
judging players by skill is much easier and more fair, I would think.
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02-25-2010, 09:32 PM
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by Netskot
I wouldn't have commented anymore had I not seen others disagree with me. Didn't think it would be up for debate imo.
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Haha, you didn't think saying Ovechkin is better than Crosby would be up for debate?  I'm pretty sure it's one of THE most debated topics on the internet, lol.
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02-25-2010, 09:33 PM
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Netskot
you wouldn't feel this way if he was Canadian or you Russian.
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I know plenty of Canadians who are tools.
You're Canadian, right?
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02-25-2010, 09:40 PM
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#78
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flameswin
Haha, you didn't think saying Ovechkin is better than Crosby would be up for debate? I'm pretty sure it's one of THE most debated topics on the internet, lol. |
yet so many of you disagreed?
What's the common denominator? A website full of Canadians?
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02-25-2010, 09:41 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSutterDynasty
I know plenty of Canadians who are tools.
You're Canadian, right?
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wrong. but good job pointing out the first part.
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02-25-2010, 09:44 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Netskot
yet so many of you disagreed?
What's the common denominator? A website full of Canadians?
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I learned a while ago that this isn't a good place for a Crosby / Ovechkin debate.
Might as well just concede to the logic that playing on a better team makes you a better player.
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