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			All though it doesn't seem siginificant, Luongo having played a game in that atmosphere and behind these players is important. Not having to learn another goaltenders tendancies is crucial for this D that is already hampered by some older bodies and turnover machines. I hear you though and understand your worries, as a Flames fan myself I'm fully aware of Luongo's past in certain situations. I do think behind this team it is a little different and believe he is very capable of holding the forte.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2010, 05:14 AM
			
			
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			 I guess we shall see. Germany will supposedly be an easier opponent.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			02-23-2010, 09:15 AM
			
			
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				The biggest game of his career was game 6 of the conference semi finals against the Blackhawks last year. He blew it, remember? 
			
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Sure do. But read the part where l said he is  about  to play the biggest game of his career.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2010, 09:17 AM
			
			
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			Thank God Luongo gets the start.  Brodeur made me wince every time he played the puck.  I know he's good at playing the puck and all, but for F'sakes, just get the puck to a dman in the corner rather than ALWAYS trying to pass the puck forward.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2010, 09:21 AM
			
			
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			Quite pleased with the goalie change. Team Canada's defence is too jittery and nervous to have a goalie back there playing the puck a lot and making questionable decisions. 
 
Luongo will just flop around in his butterfly and stay in the crease. The less scrambles in the Canadian zone, the better off we are. Luongo's rebound control is also significantly better, which calms things down a lot.  
 
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			He'll do great and earn a lot of respect nation wide by the time this thing is over!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2010, 09:50 AM
			
			
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				Team Canada should start Fleury in goal. Luongo can be the backup. Luongo got pulled in his last game vs. the Wild and he looked awful as he was in his 7uongo form. Don't trust Luongo just because he is playing in GM Place. Brodeur and Fleury have Stanley Cup rings, Luongo does not. 
			
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Fleury has a ring but his numbers weren't mind blowing. As someone said earlier in the thread, by that logic we should be going with Osgood.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2010, 09:59 AM
			
			
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				Quite pleased with the goalie change. Team Canada's defence is too jittery and nervous to have a goalie back there playing the puck a lot and making questionable decisions. 
  
Luongo will just flop around in his butterfly and stay in the crease. The less scrambles in the Canadian zone, the better off we are. Luongo's rebound control is also significantly better, which calms things down a lot.  
  
			
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I agree. Brodeur was always a very questionable starter over Luongo and seemed like he was granted overt respect for the past versus what he could do in the present.
  
Now that we've got that sorted out, we can get down to business and that business is gold.
  
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			02-23-2010, 10:18 AM
			
			
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				Fleury has a ring but his numbers weren't mind blowing. As someone said earlier in the thread, by that logic we should be going with Osgood. 
			
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No. because osgood isn't one of the three goalies to be chosen, so I am not sure why people keep bringin up a goalie who is not on the actual freaking team. No logic at all. As far as numbers goes, who gives a flying fack...numbers mean squat at the end of the day....
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2010, 10:53 AM
			
			
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				No. because osgood isn't one of the three goalies to be chosen, so I am not sure why people keep bringin up a goalie who is not on the actual freaking team. No logic at all. As far as numbers goes, who gives a flying fack...numbers mean squat at the end of the day.... 
			
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			02-23-2010, 11:00 AM
			
			
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			02-23-2010, 11:33 AM
			
			
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				Yea who gives a crap because numbers don't mean anything when talking about players right    
			
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numbers mean a lot to the normals...the poolies...agents etc.. so ya you are somewhat correct.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2010, 11:34 AM
			
			
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				numbers mean a lot to the normals...the poolies...agents etc.. so ya you are somewhat correct. 
			
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I guess you are somewhat right; Brodeur's past numbers turned out to be useless for this tournament...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2010, 11:40 AM
			
			
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				I guess you are somewhat right; Brodeur's past numbers turned out to be useless for this tournament... 
			
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Ok well first of all, I agree with a goaltending change...but I think a lot of people are putting way to much blame on Brodeur, that 2nd goal was completely his fault and that is enough in my eyes to give someone else the chance...but 2 of those goals were redirects and the 4th one was a total breakdown by the defence and Brodeur was blocked by his defenseman from getting back into position - not saying he isn't at fault for the rebound or being out of position, but a lot of other things went down on that play. He made some huge stops on some breakaways. All i am saying is Fluery has big game experience and did well..Luongo not so much..but hey this Luongo chance and prob his last chance to prove he can pull out the big win (and by that i don't mean against Germany)
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2010, 11:41 AM
			
			
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				numbers mean a lot to the normals...the poolies...agents etc.. so ya you are somewhat correct. 
			
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"The normals"?
 
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			02-23-2010, 11:43 AM
			
			
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				"The normals"? 
  
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No high horse, just reality, stats are for mass consumption. Does Iggy suck because of his numbers? Would he have the same numbers if he played in Washington...stats cannot tell the entire story.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2010, 11:46 AM
			
			
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				No high horse, just reality, stats are for mass consumption. Does Iggy suck because of his numbers? Would he have the same numbers if he played in Washington...stats cannot tell the entire story. 
			
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And would Marc-Andre Fleury have won that Stanley Cup ring if he was drafted by Florida instead of Pittsburgh?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				No high horse, just reality, stats are for mass consumption. Does Iggy suck because of his numbers? Would he have the same numbers if he played in Washington...stats cannot tell the entire story. 
			
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Exactly.  Which is the issue I have with your perspective, Mel.  Take your critique of the numbers and just reverse it for the powers of observation belief.  In my opinion it should be a balanced opinion, and you seem to skew things strongly towards your bias and to favour your arguments.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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				Exactly.  Which is the issue I have with your perspective, Mel.  Take your critique of the numbers and just reverse it for the powers of observation.  In my opinion it should be a balanced opinion, and you seem to skew things strongly towards your bias and to favour your arguments. 
			
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For example:
 
Kiprusoff gets pulled in an elimination game against San Jose - bad team defense 
Luongo lets in 7 in an elimination game against Chicago - goaltending choke
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				And would Marc-Andre Fleury have won that Stanley Cup ring if he was drafted by Florida instead of Pittsburgh? 
			
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Who knows? Would Pittsburgh would of won the cup without Fleury?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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