These games should have been in Calgary!

[Northendzone]

given all of the traffic nightmares and the fact that stuff is already expensive enough here, i am glad that the games did not land here in Calgary.

as mentioned above, there are always going to be glitches in events of this size - i'd like to see some ratio of the number of people who got to thier destination vs the one who were on busses that got lost.....

[HotHotHeat]

Calling these games a failure is not premature, or over the top. Failure is just a word used to describe a lack of success. I guess it would be more fair to suggest that aspects of the games have failed, as it's not something that is widespread. Cypress, for example, has been a failure. The opening ceremonies had a fairly large mistake, and I would personally categorize the torch not lighting properly a failure.

The point is, these games have been problem riddled from day zero, and the problems have continued every day since. Weather may not be controllable, but it's certainly predictable. There's a reason the FIS stopped brining World Cup Downhill events to Whistler (I know, February is statistically a better month for clear skies).

Vancouver is just not an ideal location to host the games.

[Resolute 14]

By that argument, you would just be hosting the games in a rotating area of four or five cities. Would be nice for the cities involved, but if governments and people wish for it to move, so be it.

Even if the games end up in a small loss (and depending on who you talk to, Calgary's games may have as well), it is money well spent in my view.

[Methanolic]

Just learned (from reading this thread) that they will be taking the ski jumps down? And won't be using the oval for speed skating?

I don't understand the thinking. Why wouldn't they keep these facilities for training and other events?

[6FeetDeep]

Originally Posted by HotHotHeat

Calling these games a failure is not premature, or over the top. Failure is just a word used to describe a lack of success. I guess it would be more fair to suggest that aspects of the games have failed, as it's not something that is widespread. Cypress, for example, has been a failure. The opening ceremonies had a fairly large mistake, and I would personally categorize the torch not lighting properly a failure.

The point is, these games have been problem riddled from day zero, and the problems have continued every day since. Weather may not be controllable, but it's certainly predictable. There's a reason the FIS stopped brining World Cup Downhill events to Whistler (I know, February is statistically a better month for clear skies).

Vancouver is just not an ideal location to host the games.

Calling these games "problem riddled" is a gross exaggeration. There have been a few gaffes. Some, like the long lines at Cypress and the Zamboni issues can be fixed. Vancouver having the warmest winter in its history is something that really couldn't be predicted.

Saying Vancouver isn't an ideal location to host the games is ridiculous. Like said, from everything I've read from Olympic enthusiasts these Olympics have been great, and you can't go wrong hosting them in one of the most beautiful cities in the world.

[Resolute 14]

Probably because Canada doesn't need two such training facilities?

The Richmond Oval will still be capable of being a speed skating facility if they so chose, but it's primary function will be to house two ice rinks and a high performance training area.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by HotHotHeat

Calling these games a failure is not premature, or over the top. Failure is just a word used to describe a lack of success. I guess it would be more fair to suggest that aspects of the games have failed, as it's not something that is widespread. Cypress, for example, has been a failure. The opening ceremonies had a fairly large mistake, and I would personally categorize the torch not lighting properly a failure.

The point is, these games have been problem riddled from day zero, and the problems have continued every day since. Weather may not be controllable, but it's certainly predictable. There's a reason the FIS stopped brining World Cup Downhill events to Whistler (I know, February is statistically a better month for clear skies).

Vancouver is just not an ideal location to host the games.

Cypress was a failure?? Ask Jenn Heil or Bilodeau if they hated the conditions?? Cypress will be the setting of one of the greatest Olympic memories in Canadian history.

And for the record, they could not have antcipated this weather. It has been the warmest February on record. It's not like this....EVER. Last year in February we had snow and cold temperatures. Christ, we even got snow in March. It's never like this. It's unfortunate, but you make the best of it.

These games are a massive undertaking and no games will ever be perfect. There have been technical, weather, logistical problems at EVERY OLYMPICS. Jesus, Vancouver is no different.



Oh and for the record, I work right across the street from the Olympic Village and would assume that I would have to deal with a traffic nightmare. Not so. I was at work in 15 minutes yesterday and today. Both record times for me. People in this city are buying in and taking transit to and from the downtown core. This city is embracing these games, this city is enjoying these games, this city is doing a great job of holding these games. Stop bitching and enjoy it yourself. Jesus.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by 6FeetDeep

...and you can't go wrong hosting them in one of the most beautiful cities in the world.

In all seriousness, I don't think Vancouver is anywhere close to being one of the most beautiful cities in the world. It may be up there on the North American scale, but most major European capitals put Vancouver to shame.

[North East Goon]

It's been a success in regards to finally getting that damn gold medal - that's for sure. The everlasting emotional feelings towards these games may hinge on Team Canada's performance in hockey fair or not!

[North East Goon]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

In all seriousness, I don't think Vancouver is anywhere close to being one of the most beautiful cities in the world. It may be up there on the North American scale, but most major European capitals put Vancouver to shame.

I think it's up there for scenic beauty worldwide!

[valo403]

Originally Posted by HotHotHeat

Calling these games a failure is not premature, or over the top. Failure is just a word used to describe a lack of success. I guess it would be more fair to suggest that aspects of the games have failed, as it's not something that is widespread. Cypress, for example, has been a failure. The opening ceremonies had a fairly large mistake, and I would personally categorize the torch not lighting properly a failure.

The point is, these games have been problem riddled from day zero, and the problems have continued every day since. Weather may not be controllable, but it's certainly predictable. There's a reason the FIS stopped brining World Cup Downhill events to Whistler (I know, February is statistically a better month for clear skies).

Vancouver is just not an ideal location to host the games.

Depends on your point of view I guess. If you were holding Cat B tickets for yesterday then I guess you're right. If you're a mogul competitor the conditions were ideal.

[henriksedin33]

Originally Posted by HotHotHeat

Calgary will remain the sporting excellence centre for Canada. Vancouver's Richmond Oval is nowhere near the facility we have in Calgary. The Ski Jumps are being torn down, and their Nordic centre is nothing compared to Canmore. COP is upgrading their facilities to remain the top complex in the country.

Calgary will host the games again. Unfortunately, these failed games in Vancouver have pushed back our second turn by at least 30 years. Enjoy the rain, world.

LOL, who pissed in your cornflakes?

[Resolute 14]

Gotta love how the Vancouver inferiority complex is coming out in full force here. Every Vancouver based poster still on the forum... like moths to a flame.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Gotta love how the Vancouver inferiority complex is coming out in full force here. Every Vancouver based poster still on the forum... like moths to a flame.

its comical that you say Vancouver has an inferiority complex after you ripped the city in a thread saying the games should have been in Calgary

pot meet kettle

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Gotta love how the Vancouver inferiority complex is coming out in full force here. Every Vancouver based poster still on the forum... like moths to a flame.

How about all the Calgary based posters holding on to their 1988 games like their balls. Apparently, the 1988 games were the best games in history and will never be out done ever by anyone. Calgary 88 is the gold standard, yadda yadda yadda.

Strangely enough, I never hear or read the same thing about 88 from outsiders.

Come on people. Let's enjoy the games and stop looking for reasons to nit pick on a city just because you hate their hockey team.

Vancouver 2010, Calgary 88, Vancouver 2010, Calgary 88.....LET THEM BOTH BE GREAT!!!

[rockstar]

Jesus Christ.

[Flamesguy_SJ]

Pft, everybody knows that Vancouver 2010, Calgary 1988--hell, even Montreal 1976 pale in comparison to Saint John, host of the 1984 Canada Games.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Gotta love how the Vancouver inferiority complex is coming out in full force here. Every Vancouver based poster still on the forum... like moths to a flame.

Why would people from Vancouver have an inferiority complex? I think you've got it backwards.

[HotHotHeat]

ANGRY Vancouverites. I'd be doing the same if people were complaining about the games being in Calgary. All y'all can say what you must about how beautiful Vancouver is and how Cypress (I think I'm spelling this incorrectly) was great as a venue, but the issues being raised aren't unwarranted.

[The Yen Man]

Why can't Calgarians just just let Vancouver have their moment without trying to trash them at every little thing that comes up? It just makes us look petty and trying to cling on to past glory. The 88 Olympics are turning out the be Calgary's version of Edmonton's 5 Stanley cups.