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Devils'Advocate · 02-09-2010, 07:30 AM

It really is a pain in the ass how much this one study is getting so much play. On CTV they had this write-in thingy where people were giving their opinions and one guy wrote in that he was sticking to diet sodas based on this report. But they were quick to point out that this study didn't differentiate based on diet vs non-diet pop. Therefore we are to assume that they are equally bad?

I mean 1000 studies have been done on aspartame and yet there is no conclusive evidence that it is harmful. Yet it is still being debated. However, this study is being taken as gospel for some reason.

I saw a study that linked potaoes to cancer. Why isn't there a call being made to end all potatoe consumption?

kirant · 02-09-2010, 07:39 AM

I like how this topic has been completely hijacked.

Anyways, IF this experiment had conclusive evidence (Which IMO it doesn't. A couple would be needed to determine to factor that led to it. IE - Sugar), I would assume overwork of the Pancreas would cause the cancer.

Peanut · 02-09-2010, 09:27 AM

Pop is the cigarette of our generation (as in, everybody does it and nobody is really aware of the negative health effects). Just my opinion of course...

Weiser Wonder · 02-09-2010, 09:34 AM

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Pop is the cigarette of our generation (as in, everybody does it and nobody is really aware of the negative health effects). Just my opinion of course...

Then what was pop of the last generation? Pop has existed for more than this generation. Some would speculate it has been around for several generations.

Peanut · 02-09-2010, 09:59 AM

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Then what was pop of the last generation? Pop has existed for more than this generation. Some would speculate it has been around for several generations.

Sorry, I guess generation is the wrong word. I just kind of feel like pop, made with high-fructose corn syrup, is the next cigarette.

Actually, maybe it's just high fructose corn syrup that's the next cigarette. That crap is really bad for you and it's in a tonne of food/beverages.

Shazam · 02-09-2010, 10:03 AM

But regular sugar is also high-fructose.

Peanut · 02-09-2010, 10:08 AM

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But regular sugar is also high-fructose.

... okay?

I'm anti-sugar, alright?! That's just my opinion and I'm sticking with it.

Shazam · 02-09-2010, 10:09 AM

Nothing wrong with being anti-sugar. It's terrible stuff.

There seems to be a whole brand of people though that vilify HFCS yet think that sugar (sucrose) is all fine and dandy.

Yee88 · 02-09-2010, 10:09 AM

That's crazy to hear especially since pancreatic cancer is so hard to diagnose. I was drinking at least a can of coke a day for awhile and just stopped last month. Too bad I can't drink alcohol - little to no tolerance

LChoy · 02-09-2010, 10:21 AM

Oh BCEM 393, how I remember

Fructose is over 50% "sweeter" than glucose
Sucrose is made up of a glucose and a fructose molecule, so a can of coke from Canada will still contain significant levels of Fructose
High fructose corn syrup is made up of similar quantities of fructose and glucose (hence it's use as a sucrose alternative)

REDVAN · 02-09-2010, 10:27 AM

If they'd only invent a way to live forever, none of this would even matter.

4X4 · 02-09-2010, 10:28 AM

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If they'd only invent a way to live forever, none of this would even matter.

I'm going to live forever - I drink less than one can of pop per week.

TheSutterDynasty · 02-09-2010, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

It really is a pain in the ass how much this one study is getting so much play. On CTV they had this write-in thingy where people were giving their opinions and one guy wrote in that he was sticking to diet sodas based on this report. But they were quick to point out that this study didn't differentiate based on diet vs non-diet pop. Therefore we are to assume that they are equally bad?

Well sucralose (splenda) is considered one of the safest artificial sweeteners (and FDA approved), but we've just recently found that something like 20% of it is digested... and we don't know where it goes!

peter12 · 02-09-2010, 11:00 AM

What about club soda?!

Shazam · 02-09-2010, 11:02 AM

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What about club soda?!

When you burp the CO2 you're contributing to global warming. How come you hate the polar bears?

zuluking · 02-09-2010, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Yee88

That's crazy to hear especially since pancreatic cancer is so hard to diagnose. I was drinking at least a can of coke a day for awhile and just stopped last month. Too bad I can't drink alcohol - little to no tolerance

You're just not trying hard enough.

Ashartus · 02-09-2010, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

It really is a pain in the ass how much this one study is getting so much play. On CTV they had this write-in thingy where people were giving their opinions and one guy wrote in that he was sticking to diet sodas based on this report. But they were quick to point out that this study didn't differentiate based on diet vs non-diet pop. Therefore we are to assume that they are equally bad?

I mean 1000 studies have been done on aspartame and yet there is no conclusive evidence that it is harmful. Yet it is still being debated. However, this study is being taken as gospel for some reason.

I saw a study that linked potaoes to cancer. Why isn't there a call being made to end all potatoe consumption?

It's all a matter of perspective, which tends to get lost in media reports. While the study does show an association between drinking pop and pancreatic cancer, you have to keep in mind that it's still only a relatively small proportion of people drinking pop that got this cancer. I haven't looked at the original paper, but if there were 140 cases of pancreatic cancer in over 60,000 people, that's only about 0.2% of the study population (after 14 years). The lifetime risk of getting pancreatic cancer in Canada is about 1.3% (with most occurring in the elderly). However these stats include the high risk people (smokers and diabetics); for the rest of us the chance is a lot smaller. I suspect most of the people getting pancreatic cancer had multiple risk factors, but would have to see the raw data to know for sure. I'd personally be more worried about diabetes and weight problems from drinking pop - though pancreatic cancer is pretty nasty if you do get it.

Devils'Advocate · 02-09-2010, 05:03 PM

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It's all a matter of perspective, which tends to get lost in media reports.

Well the CTV poll said that 86% of those polled were going to reduce their consumption of soft drinks based on the finding of this study.

There is a solid link between sugary foods and diabetes, and yet most everyone ignores it because it's not on the front page of the newspaper. But one rogue study saying that soft drinks lead to cancer and people are scared to buy a Pepsi.

Devils'Advocate · 02-09-2010, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSutterDynasty

Well sucralose (splenda) is considered one of the safest artificial sweeteners (and FDA approved), but we've just recently found that something like 20% of it is digested... and we don't know where it goes!

But we know exactly where sugar goes. The love handles.

7uongo · 02-10-2010, 07:02 AM

this doesnt involve diet drinks?
WOOOHOOO!
oh well, the stuff is probably just as bad