11-11-2009, 01:20 PM
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#521
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Ben
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: God's Country (aka Cape Breton Island)
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cmyden, you seem to have a very good grasp on the programs, sites, and how they work.
Last night I was going through looking for flights from Kelowna (YLW) to Sydney (YQY) for my brother's girlfriend.
For those not familiar with the Maritimes, Halifax (YHZ) and Moncton (YQM) are about 4-4.5 hours away. Generally it's much cheaper to fly to Halifax and take a shuttle or bus to Sydney than to fly directly here.
So I searched YLW to YQY
Then YLW to YHZ
Then YLW to YQM
all for the same dates, got the prices
Cheapest being YLW to YHZ return
Now here's the odd part.
I searched YLW to YQY but to include airports within 225 miles (or KM whichever it lists). I thought maybe it'll be cheaper to fly into one airport but out another.
Not only was it not cheaper, it was all around more expensive.
So why would it be cheaper to search YLW to YHZ return, than to search YLW to a combination of YHZ/YQM/YQY? Shouldn't the previous price be included in the broader search?
What I mean is wouldn't that search look for
YLW to YQY & YQY to YLW
YLW to YQY & YHZ to YLW
YLW to YQY & YQM to YLW
YLW to YHZ & YQY to YLW
YLW to YHZ & YHZ to YLW
YLW to YHZ & YQM to YLW
YLW to YQM & YQY to YLW
YLW to YQM & YHZ to YLW
YLW to YQM & YQM to YLW
Shouldn't the YLW to YHZ return price have been the same?
Not a big deal, just odd that's all.
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Last edited by Maritime Q-Scout; 11-11-2009 at 01:26 PM.
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11-11-2009, 02:11 PM
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#522
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Hi Maritime,
I assume you are using ITASoftware to do this? If so, I have noticed the exact same problem/flaw when using the 'or any airport within X amount of miles'.
I emailed the ITASoftware developers about this, and they said that basically it comes down to the number of route combinations they can check at one time.
For instance, when you specify 'within 200 miles' from YQY, you're likely including a bunch of airports in that radius. So then ITASoftware uses some sort of algorithm to try and determine every combination of routes between all those airports (which can be quite a few). And then it must use some way of determining which of those route combinations to check during your query.
In short, I think it just ends up missing the 'best' combination. I've noticed the same thing as you. From my experience, anything over a '50 mile' radius is subject to inaccuracies.
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11-11-2009, 02:15 PM
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#523
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One of the Nine
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Hey cmyden, I told a friend that I'd ask you to keep your eyes peeled for flights to Puerto Vallarta in January. I'm sure that you've already received a million other requests like this, but if you happen to see one, do you mind posting it?
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11-11-2009, 03:18 PM
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#524
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Hey cmyden, I told a friend that I'd ask you to keep your eyes peeled for flights to Puerto Vallarta in January. I'm sure that you've already received a million other requests like this, but if you happen to see one, do you mind posting it?
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Of course! If an unusually good price shows up for PVR I would of course love to post it. Usually I like a flight to be a good 25% off it's 'normal' price before I consider it a good deal.
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11-11-2009, 03:34 PM
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Ben
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: God's Country (aka Cape Breton Island)
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yep, ITASoftware indeed.
Ok it's not just me then. Glad you're aware of the flaw. While I don't think there would be that many possibilities for YQY (I believe Saint John, and Fredericton are outside the radius) and maybe Charlottetown might be in there too, I'm surprised as I'd think that's relatively low. Whereas a New York or Los Angeles would have tons of airports, with countless flights.
Regardless, good to know to double check your avenues and not think the system will cross-reference for you.
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11-14-2009, 10:02 AM
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#526
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Calgary to London Gatwick - $551 CDN
Dec 12 - 26
http://www.canadianaffair.ca
Return, includes all taxes/fees.
cM
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11-14-2009, 10:11 AM
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#527
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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Got this email from WestJet the other day....
Friday November 13, 2009
To those of you who have called our Sales Super Centre to make new reservations or change existing ones, we thank you for your patience. We know that you have spent far more time on hold than you have come to expect from us, and we apologize. We would like to share with you a significant step we are taking to address the situation.
Effective today, we are adding significant capacity to our ability to answer and handle calls. All phone calls for new bookings will be answered by agents who work for Travelocity, an online travel agent owned by our reservations partner, Sabre. Please rest assured that these call centre agents are experienced travel professionals and will deliver the same guest experience you have come to expect from WestJet.
We encourage you to continue to contact us for all of your travel needs by calling 1-888-WESTJET and depending on your requirements, you will be directed to the appropriate agent.
Once again, I thank you for your continued patience. This new reservation system will allow us to accomplish many great initiatives for our guests and on behalf of our 7,500 WestJetters, I look forward to rapidly returning to the great WestJet experience you’ve come to know and trust.
Sincerely,
Sean Durfy
President and CEO
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11-16-2009, 11:54 AM
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#528
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Calgary to Varadero, Cuba - 7 nights all inclusive $586 CDN !
Awesome deal, thanks to toyboy88 for finding it and sharing...
Nov 18-25, 2009
7 night all-inclusive to VARADERO, 3.5 stars + sunwing VIP club room
Only $375 + $211 taxes = $586/pp everything (taxes/fees) included!
You can find it at http://www.flightcentre.ca
The hotel gets fairly decent reviews:
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Rev...dero_Cuba.html
For anyone that can leave last minute, this is a heckuva deal.
cM
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11-19-2009, 08:51 AM
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#529
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Calgary to Ixtapa/Zihuatanejo, Mexico - $289 CDN
Dec 1,5,8 to Dec 15
Non-stop on WestJet. http://www.westjet.ca
Where is Zihuatanejo, Mexico? It's on the Pacific side, in the SW of Mexico. - Google map
Looks pretty nice... Google images
Price includes all taxes/fees as always.
cM
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11-23-2009, 12:33 PM
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#531
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Some decent holiday fare prices to Europe...
Calgary to London Gatwick - $595 USD
Dec 26 - Jan 6
http://www.airtransat.com
Calgary to Manchester - $622 USD
Dec 23 - Jan 13
http://www.airtransat.com
and one that's non-holiday...
Calgary to London Gatwick - $595 USD
Jan 23 - Feb 6
http://www.airtransat.com
Round-trip prices including all taxes/fees, as always.
cM
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11-23-2009, 03:24 PM
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#532
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Another good fare for anyone heading to Europe for Christmas holidays...
Calgary to London Gatwick - $576 USD
Dec 16 - 26
http://www.airtransat.com
Round trip, all taxes/fees.
cM
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11-23-2009, 03:28 PM
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#533
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Franchise Player
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Looking to leave for Vegas on May Wednesday May 5th returning Sunday May 9th
Any good deals right now for flights?
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11-23-2009, 03:30 PM
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#534
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Looking to leave for Vegas on May Wednesday May 5th returning Sunday May 9th
Any good deals right now for flights?
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Probably too early for any real deals to be had. Cheapest I can see right now is $590 USD on Alaska Airlines.
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11-23-2009, 03:41 PM
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#535
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I don't suppose anybody knows what a reasonable price for a return trip Calgary-Nairobi would be? I'm looking at doing a trip in roughly October/November next year and I'm not sure if I should be trying to book as early as possible or if prices will likely improve in the coming months. Right now I'm seeing roughly $2000 on British Airways or KLM (and $10,000 on Lufthansa for economy class).
The big problem with the BA flights is that the Calgary->London flights all arrive a couple hours after the Nairobi flight leaves so I end up with a full day in London (which adds to the cost, but could work well if I can catch a football match that night).
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11-23-2009, 03:56 PM
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#536
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I don't suppose anybody knows what a reasonable price for a return trip Calgary-Nairobi would be? I'm looking at doing a trip in roughly October/November next year and I'm not sure if I should be trying to book as early as possible or if prices will likely improve in the coming months. Right now I'm seeing roughly $2000 on British Airways or KLM (and $10,000 on Lufthansa for economy class).
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I would say a decent price is around $1300-$1450 USD. I think it's probably too early for decent prices 1 year ahead. There are flights showing right now for $1350 during Jan/Feb/Mar.
As far as I know, peak season for Nairobi is Jan/Feb and June-September. October-December is one of the wet seasons, so I wouldn't expect prices to be at a premium.
Don't forget about the Emirates airline as well.
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11-24-2009, 09:48 AM
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#537
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I think WestJet is really hurting right now. Pass this on to your friend's in the Chuck...
Edmonton to Los Angeles - $202 CDN
Depart
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Nov 25, 8, 9, 10, 15, 16,
Return
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Dec 1, 2, 3, 8, 17
http://www.westjet.com
Edmonton to Palm Springs - $202 CDN
Depart
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Nov 24, 25, 26
Dec 1, 2, 8, 9, 10, 15
Return
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Nov 24, 25, 26
Dec 3, 9
http://www.westjet.com
Roundtrip prices including all taxes/fees.
Other dates available for $10-20 more.
cM
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11-24-2009, 10:34 AM
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#538
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One of the Nine
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cmyden
Calgary to Ixtapa/Zihuatanejo, Mexico - $289 CDN
Dec 1,5,8 to Dec 15
Non-stop on WestJet. http://www.westjet.ca
Where is Zihuatanejo, Mexico? It's on the Pacific side, in the SW of Mexico. - Google map
Looks pretty nice... Google images
Price includes all taxes/fees as always.
cM
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I wonder if Andy and Red have the hotel set up and the boat fixed yet?
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11-24-2009, 10:42 AM
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#539
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I wonder if Andy and Red have the hotel set up and the boat fixed yet?
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Nice one, had to Google that reference because I couldn't figure out what you were talking about!
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11-25-2009, 08:37 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Christmas in California....
Calgary to Los Angeles - $288 CDN
This deal is notable because of the dates involved...
Depart: Dec 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23
Return: Dec 19, 23, 25, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31
http://www.westjet.com
Return price, all taxes/fees.
cM
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